>>>To me, just not the challenge of dxing mostly cw and ssb. Fair enough. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Another angle. I find JT65 to be a very relaxing mode. Which other mode allows one to read and write emails, go get a coffee, answer 'nature's call', etc. while making contacts? Timing is important, but doable. :^) 73 de Vince, VA3VF