Topband: 160m Vertical matching Help

MR TREVOR DUNNE ei2glb at eircom.net
Thu Nov 2 10:46:15 EDT 2017


I Don't think we even have any AM stations in the country never mind close enough to bother my MFJ but thanks for the info,

Trevor 
EI2GLB 
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From: Russ Tobolic <erusst at yahoo.com>
To: JC <n4is at comcast.net>, 'Ronald Gorski' <R.Gorski at Astronautics.com>, 'MR TREVOR DUNNE' <ei2glb at eircom.net>, 'Wes Attaway (N5WA)' <wesattaway at bellsouth.net>
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Subject: Re: Topband: 160m Vertical matching Help

JC's caution is important. Check to see if you have any MF broadcast stations near you.  I have the MFJ259 and a 5KW AM station at 1480 Kc about 1.5 miles away which renders the 259 useless on 160M'
Russ, N3CO

      From: JC <n4is at comcast.net>
 To: 'Ronald Gorski' <R.Gorski at Astronautics.com>; 'MR TREVOR DUNNE' <ei2glb at eircom.net>; 'Wes Attaway (N5WA)' <wesattaway at bellsouth.net> 
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Hi guys

Before anything else, don't trust MFJ269 reading, transmit with 10 w and
measure the SWR. It is very common the energy from AM broadcast stations
changes the real impedance reading on portable analyzers.

73's
N4IS
JC

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Subject: Re: Topband: 160m Vertical matching Help

Trevol, the portion of the coil between the tap and the base of the vertical
determines resonance and needs to be variable unless you were lucky and
found the correct value. The shunt portion of the coil affects the feed
impedance. This shunt portion is like the hairpin match for a yagi. You
select the series inductance to make the antenna slightly capacitive and
adjust the shunt inductance to raise the feed impedance.  Both these moves
interact. Use a clip lead to vary the inductance of the series coil.
Cheers,
Ron N9AU 

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From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of MR TREVOR
DUNNE
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 12:12 PM
To: Wes Attaway (N5WA)
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Subject: Re: Topband: 160m Vertical matching Help

Hi Wes

Thanks for the reply I can move the point of lowest SWR by moving the tap on
the coil, I need to lower the SWR I thought using the coil across the feed
point would do this but its not working for me??

Thanks
Trevor
EI2GLB

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From: "Wes Attaway (N5WA)" <wesattaway at bellsouth.net>
To: "MR TREVOR DUNNE" <ei2glb at eircom.net>, "topband List"
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Sent: Wednesday, 1 November, 2017 17:02:55
Subject: RE: Topband: 160m Vertical matching Help

Without doing any modeling, an off the top of the head idea, one option
would be to drop a wire down from the end of each of the T wires you have at
the top.  You might be able to move the point of lowest SWR down to 1.8 with
2x 15' +/- drop wires.

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Wes Attaway (N5WA)
(318) 393-3289 - Shreveport, LA
Computer/Cellphone Forensics
AttawayForensics.com
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DUNNE
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 11:54 AM
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Subject: Topband: 160m Vertical matching Help


Hi All



I finally got the vertical up and running, problem I have now is I can't
find a low SWR on the coil, the best I can get is about 2.8:1 no matter
where I tap the coil that's the best SWR, I can move that point up and down
the band by moving the tap but the SWR stays the same,

My current set up is about 55ft vertical I have 2 loading wires in a T
shape, wires are 50ft either side of the vertical and the are pretty level
and in line,

I have 38 radials averaging about 45-60ft long, I will add more when time
allows but don't the make the SWR worse ??

With no coil I get resonance at 2.12mhz with R=16 X=2 on my MFJ269,

The coil is 25ft of 5mm copper brake pipe in a 4" diameter, the coil is
attached to base of the vertical and the other end is grounded,

Any pointers on what I can do to get a better match,

Thanks
Trevor
EI2GLB
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