Topband: future of ham radio

[Steve Baughn]

Mark,

It is not a matter of someone "not liking" a discussion but there should be 
some reasonable conclusion at some point-and some of the topics could be 
discussed ad infinitum such as this one. It is also not just a matter of 
hitting the delete button-every time you check you phone for emails there 
are 25-30 on the same thing over a course of days. At some point it gets a 
little old and time to move on.

Steve, WD8NPL



-----Original Message----- 
From: Mark K3MSB
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 3:27 PM
To: Bob Wolters
Cc: topBand List
Subject: Re: Topband: future of ham radio

The "Delete" key is a wonderful thing.      Just because you don't like a
discussion thread doesn't mean others feel the same way.    Nobody is
forcing you to read anything you don't want to.

I've been contemplating both sides of this discussion, and others, whose
points I don't agree with, believe it or not have given me food for thought.

There have been a lot of good examples in this thread that I plan to use in
a letter to the ARRL.

Someone wanting a discussion banned or stopped, just because they don't
like it, is the height of arrogance.

This topic is relevant not only to TB but also to amateur radio in
general.   As long as it's kept civil, I'm willing to listen.

Mark K3MSB




On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Bob Wolters <bobw5xc at hal-pc.org> wrote:

> Is there another more appropriate forum/reflector for discussions of
> different modes and operating habits and history ?
>
> A place to discuss personal beliefs ?
>
> The below were just a few examples of the discussions filling up the
> topband mailbox and my mail box this week and
> seem to have little to do with top band itself.  They are NOT directed at
> Mike or Roger below.
>
> Thanks in advance and 73,
>
> Bob                 W5XC
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of W0MU
> Mike Fatchett
> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 9:31 AM
> To: topband at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: future of ham radio
>
> Roger,
>
> Do you work FT8?  Have you attempted to work any DX on FT8?  It takes some
> skill.
>
> There are different skillsets required.  I could argue it takes little
> skill to buy a 10kw amplifier a remote radio membership and use remote
> receivers all over the world takes little skill too.
>
> Please stop demeaning others that happen to like a part of the hobby you
> do not.   What is interesting to you is not interesting to others.
>
> Did you read where there are more FT8 uploads to Clublog than SSB and CW
> combined?  Sorry this is a great thing for the hobby. People are making
> contacts and actually using the bands.
>
> W0MU
>
>
> On 10/28/2017 3:42 AM, Roger Kennedy wrote:
> > I appreciate the point about trying to get youngsters interested in
> > the hobby . . .
> >
> > However, the trouble with the computer-based Digital modes is that
> > there is no SKILL involved in having a contact - it's your Computer
> having a contact!
> >
> > That lack of skill and therefore achievement is what gets people
> > hooked into a hobby - if there's none they will quickly become bored.
> >
> > Look what happened with the countless new Amateurs (with new
> > easy-to-get-licences) who just came on VHF and used Repeaters - they
> > quickly got bored and most are now inactive, unless they were
> > fortunate to have someone show them how satisfying making REAL contacts
> can be.
> >
> > The same can be said about Motor Racing . . . if the cars people used
> > getting into the sport all had ABS, Traction Control, Automatic
> > Transmission etc etc it would be pretty boring and they'd soon lose
> interest.
> >
> > 73 Roger G3YRO
> >
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