Topband: Condx from NA to EU last night / sunrise enhancement, or, lack of it

[Nick Hall-Patch]

Roger's contention that sunrise peaking was not what it was decades 
ago has intrigued me, especially considering that he has pointed out 
that he can still observe the noise floor dropping at 
sunrise.  Others have suggested that they are still seeing sunrise 
enhancements, either for sunrise at their location, or for at sunrise 
at the transmitter.   But they are usually referencing paths 
different from those from North America to Europe.

I cross-posted Roger's observations to the list maintained by Medium 
Wave Circle, a European group of experienced DXers who chase long 
distance receptions at the broadcasters' frequencies of 
530-1700kHz.   A distinct advantage of propagation observations at 
such frequencies is that the targets are on the air every day at the 
same time. (the disadvantage is that target signals are often buried 
in interference from broadcasters closer to home).   The other down 
side of any such observations up until now is that they are usually 
as anecdotal as those being related for 160m.

Paul Crankshaw, a DXer in Troon, Scotland posted the following:

>>I would concur with that.
(referring to Roger's observations)

He also posted some further findings that relate to this thread:

>>The following might be of interest to some, though relating to 
>>topband it  might be marginally off-topic!
>>
>>Digital mode FT8  has revolutionised top band reception here. It is 
>>a low power mode with "overs" of just 15 seconds.
>>
>>I have set my recorder so that when it is not recording medium wave 
>>at the top of the hour it switches to 1840 kHz were the FT8 activity is.
>>
>>The software I use is 
>>JTDX 
>><https://www.release.jtdx.tech/Windows/JTDX-18.0.0.133-GA-win32.zip>https://www.release.jtdx.tech/Windows/JTDX-18.0.0.133-GA-win32.zip
>>Equally you can use 
>>WSJT-X 
>><https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wsjtx.html>https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wsjtx.html
>>
>>A screenshot of JTDX
>><https://www.dropbox.com/s/oansalwus2dzyzn/jtdx.jpg?dl=0>https://www.dropbox.com/s/oansalwus2dzyzn/jtdx.jpg?dl=0
>>
>>All stations received may be uploaded automatically to pskreporter 
>>which maps reception.
>>
>>Here is my overnight reception plotted by pskreporter.
>><https://www.dropbox.com/s/15ccpvbiybxh1eb/1feb.jpg?dl=0>https://www.dropbox.com/s/15ccpvbiybxh1eb/1feb.jpg?dl=0
>>
>>I find that reception of North America / Latin America stations 
>>does broadly match MW propagation though west coast North America 
>>is more easily received on 1840 kHz. Peak time for WCNA is usually 
>>around 0400 although today (this posted at around 0900 on 1 
>>February) I notice a different pattern.  The station mapped in WA, 
>>W7FI was logged (for last time, it may have been heard earlier) at 
>>0648. The ID station at 0724.
>>
>>No California made it through last night.  As I write the band is 
>>quite dead. The last couple of stations, one in IL and one in Cuba 
>>were received at 0815 UTC

So, further food for thought.   Paul would have benefited from the 
his noise levels dropping at local sunrise, but has not seen much 
effect from that, let alone any sunrise peaks.

Are there similar FT8 observations from those in North America who 
would not have benefited from local sunrise at their locations, but 
be recording signals from European amateurs as sunrise occurred at 
their locations?



73

Nick
VE7DXR








At 19:19 2018-02-01, Roger Kennedy wrote:

>Actually Dave, I didn't think conditions were exceptional last night . . .
>
>They have been much the same almost every night I have been on the band for
>the past few weeks.
>
>(I'm going by the strength of signals received, as well as my reports . . .
>with stations right across to the West Coast)
>
>But the problem is there is often little or no activity !
>
>So I'm hoping that the idea of this regular Wednesday 160m DX Night will
>prompt more and more stations to come on the band !
>
>
>Roger G3YRO
>
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> > Conditions last night from here in the Midwest (Iowa) to Europe were
> > exceptional. . .probably the best of the season so far.  I got ready to
> > shut down around 0500z and thought I would take a listen before before I
> > did.  I was hearing Europe pretty well including Zone 16 stations.  I
> > called and worked some with 100w while the amp was warming up.  I started
> > CQing when the amp came on and shut down and hour and 20 minutes later
> > having logged 41 stations.  There were a lot of honest S7/S8 signals with
> > a last a half dozen S9 or better.   Had I gotten on earlier I'm sure I
> > could have worked many more, but the sun was starting to be a factor when
> > I went QRT.  It appears when conditions are good the guys QSY down from
> > 1840, dust off the keyer, and experience the excitement of working people
> > they can actually hear.  It was great fun.         73. . . Dave, W0FLS
>
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Nick Hall-Patch
Victoria, BC
Canada