Topband: Straws in the Wind ....A 160m Dx'ing Sea Change is Upon us!

[Hans Hjelmström]

FULLY AGREE.  Perfect written. THANKS.

BUT it is easy to solve this.
If ARRL make a special award for ,,,,no hearing QSO,,,, and make these
computer to computer connections ONLY valid for this award,,,,anyone that
like to work dxcc this way  can do so.Years ago they claimed minimum 339 or 33 on a 
confirmation of a QSO,,,,  now they accept things much below possibility to hear
in your rx.

Final and PSE Happy Eastern and cu this season 6 meters and next on top band CW,
SSB,RTTY.Now to the dinning table for Eastern ´´´´snaps,,,.

Hans SM6CVX
> 30 mar 2018 kl. 19:02 skrev Ed Sawyer <sawyered at earthlink.net>:
> 
> My thoughts on FT8:
> 
> 
> 
> -          How is it actually a Q from our normal perspective?  The comments
> Jeff made on the fact that 2 operators (on both sides of the circuit) could
> see evidence of each other for 20 minutes before the "computers" finally
> made the connection - is proof that the operator is not making the QSO.
> 
> -          There is a floating robot in the Pacific making FT8 QSOs with
> people right now - unattended.
> 
> -          3Z9DX has stated that they will leave an FT8 station going 24/7
> (which means unattended) on T31.  
> 
> -          Are these what we want to count as QSOs?  What about in contests
> - FT8 is already infiltrating VHF contests.  Should they be considered valid
> contest Qs - while you sleep?
> 
> -          I agree with Jeff and others that for people that that consider
> topband a PTA to operate and/or are not CW operators - 160M looks like the
> perfect place to drop a robot and go concentrate on something else.  But
> isn't this a slippery slope?  What about 10M/12M since the sunspots are low.
> Or 80M because the static crashes in the tropics are terrible - etc.  Before
> you know it the whole DXpedition is an FT8 robot while the "crew" is
> lounging about the pool with the XYL/YLs.
> 
> -          If we continue to facilitate such nonsense, they we deserve what
> we get in my opinion.  If we decide that the band counter is so important we
> don't care how we have to get it, then its time to look in the mirror folks.
> 
> -          On the other hand, maybe some people are happier with the
> computer doing the heavy lifting of digging out the QSO.  Personally, count
> me out of that list.
> 
> 
> 
> Ed  N1UR
> 
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