Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters - Station Location and Boundary

Lloyd - N9LB lloydberg at
Fri Nov 23 17:49:16 EST 2018

A shared Receive Only site can be used by many operators simultaneously.  
However a shared RX-TX site (remote station) would be impossible.
( Think Bouvet on 20m CW, listening up 1-10 )

Also a club sponsored shared RX could be set up far from any noise sources, run on solar cells & batteries, with an 802.11A Wi-FI link back to the nearest wired Internet.


Lloyd - N9LB

-----Original Message-----
From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces at] On Behalf Of Dan Edward Dba East edwards
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 11:45 AM
To: topband at; Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell at>
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters - Station Location and Boundary

 gotta chip in my $0.02 on this, for what little it may be worth..
i have access to some remote rural property, here in texas, and in oklahoma..but k5rk and w7rh pointed out 'its not legal for dxcc if an Rx only site'....but RHR is ok ( ????? ) the league's requirement that my transmit antenna be there also greatly increases the cost / time / complexity commitment compared to an Rx only site; i COULD continue to Tx from my home qth, and listen from someplace quieter, with more favorable local terrain..IF it was 'legal' for DXCC..
how about 'same call area' or adjacent states / provinces instead of 500m ?????
presently, still struggling with man made noise in Hunter's Creek, longview, texas...a very long ways from any salt water...VERY lucky to land zone 17 recently, #38, on demon-cheater mode ( FT-8 )... atter 10 years on 160m, when i started from scratch.
happy holidays, y'all, and good luck!
73, W5XZ, dan
    On Thursday, November 22, 2018, 8:05:50 AM CST, Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell at> wrote:  
 Hi Joe,

I would have never assumed that you have acreage whether 5 acres or something the size of the King Ranch. All of those electrical belches are difficult to escape. Moving your receiver out into the swamp, forest, desert, craggy mountaintop or anywhere besides your desktop can help. Using DSP can help and maybe even more than physical isolation. 
Remote receivers can have both. Have you tried DSP?

The software packages come with spectrum displays - much like panadapters - and I have been able to pick out Morse signals between the points of some digital crap resembling the Burger King's crown. Without the DSP there was no way to even hear that CW signal or know it existed. 
It's not 1956 any more. We have to do whatever we have to do to pull those signals out. Where I live my worst handicap is my 100 foot lot followed by the automotive body shop and it's welders about 250 feet from my back door. DSP is able to pull some signals out even when the welder is in use! In spite of my undersize antennas. 160 DXCC? It ain't going to happen here. I shouldn't even be on 160 meters, But I keep trying.


Bill  KU8H

On 11/22/18 7:38 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> On 2018-11-22 2:08 AM, kolson at wrote:
>> And this is easy to say when you have 5 acres in a semi-rural area, 
>> hi hi.
> With no antennas.  I have not been seriously active on low bands in 
> the
> 20 years I've been here precisely because of the increasing prevalence 
> of the multiple remote receiver/remote station operations.  However, 
> even semi-rural areas have significant problems with noise from poorly 
> maintained power lines, neighbor's plasma TVs, etc.
> Multiple remote receiver/"pick your remote station" is the scourge of 
> DXCC in general as it completely removes both station building and 
> operating skills from the equation and replaces them with the check 
> book.  One might as well replace amateur radio with "hamsphere" or 
> IRL.
> 73,
>     ... Joe, W4TV
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