Topband: Summer Update & a Surprise

[GEORGE WALLNER]

Andy is right: FT8 should in a separate category.
Especially, when we consider the "dirty little secret": Increasingly, a 
number of ops are using fully automated FT8 stations. Most of the time they 
are not even in the shack while their automated FT8 stations are making 
QSO-s.
Whether we agree with or like all that, or whether we even like FT8, is 
totally besides the point. None of that will stop; all the ARRL can do is 
put it in a separate category, otherwise the value of DXCC will be 
hopelessly diluted.
73,
George,
AA7JV/C6AGU
PS: The value of DXCC goes far beyond the paper certificate and the bragging 
rights that comes with it. Today the DXCC program is responsible for a very 
great deal of the remaining non-FT8 activity on the MF/HF bands!

On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 13:20:24 +0200
  "Andrzej_SP6AEG" <andrzej_aeg at interia.pl> wrote:
> In my humble opinion, FT8 should have nothing to do with the competitors of
> DXCC Mix, CW, SSB or RTTY. RTTY emission was killed in short wavelengths,
> expeditions in the increasing percentage use FT8 as the basic emission and
> this is not due to the lack of propagation. I think, the issue of FT8 should
> be treated as a separate competition not included in DXCC Mix, CW, SSB and
> digital. Then we can talk about competition. Otherwise, it loses the value
> of DXCC from before FT8. The discussions on this list about receiving
> antennas, the fight against QRM, etc. will end.
>
> Andy
> SP6AEG
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> -----Original Message-----
>From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of uy0zg
> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 8:09 PM
> To: Peter Sundberg
> Cc: daraymond at iowatelecom.net; k1zm at aol.com; topband at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: Summer Update & a Surprise
>
> Hi Topbanders !
>
>
> Everything is easy to fix.
>
> There should be a strict separation of achievements -
>
> 1. They are made only by man.
>
> 2. They are made only on the computer.
>
>
> Delete Mixed Achievement Chart :
>
> http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20190731-A4.pdf#page=1&zoom=a
> uto,-12,848
>
> And then FT8 (and many future FTs ....) will lose popularity.
>
> Only children will play with them ...
>
>
> ---
> Nick, UY0ZG
> http://www.topband.in.ua
>
>
> Peter Sundberg писал 2019-07-31 20:31:
>> If we CW operators would all stay on a very tight frequency passband
>> and call CQ every 15 seconds I bet there would be a lot of interesting
>> things happening to us also. Especially if we do it 24/7 or at least
>> every hour that we are not asleep.
>>
>> However, PC-automation has it's advantages, some are at work while
>> working DX and others are gardening. Some even sit by the radio/PC and
>> watch things happen :-)
>>
>> Bottom line is, we need to activate our transmitters more and not just
>> listen for others. A perfect example is Bill KH7XS who opens up almost
>> any seemingly "dead" band to Europe, at any time, just by calling CQ
>> for a while.
>>
>> CW is not only great fun as you say Dave, CW is King!
>>
>> 73
>> Peter SM2CEW
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