Topband: BOG Beverage on Ground Help

[K9FD]

It still wire on the ground


> But then it canalso be transmission line on a ground.
> In a form of coax line, twisted line.
>
>
>
> ср, 4 дек. 2019 г. в 00:27, K9FD <merv.k9fd at gmail.com 
> <mailto:merv.k9fd at gmail.com>>:
>
>     WOG wire on the ground
>
>     > I agree with Bob. I think the name BOG is firmly entrenched,
>     whatever the
>     > electrical differences. Oh, I could propose a new name, but I
>     doubt it
>     > would ever stick.
>     >
>     > I'll go back to my Otter/Platypus to propose a parable:
>     >
>     > Suppose that the Platypus had instead gotten the name of
>     Duckfaced Otter,
>     > and that was firmly entrenched in the language regardless of the
>     science
>     > placing the Duckfaced in a different Latin-worded species.
>     >
>     > Then on a reflector, an argument crops up, someone says that the
>     Duckfaced
>     > Otter lays eggs. Others deride that statement, saying everyone
>     knows that
>     > an Otter is a mammal, that mammals give live birth and Otters do
>     not lay
>     > eggs. Some, quite irritated, ask wouldn't the Duckfaced Otter
>     have been
>     > named differently if it was really that different? Probably
>     because it was
>     > named centuries before people knew it laid eggs.
>     >
>     > In the science, the egg-laying, out of many differences, all by
>     > itself would put the Duckfaced Otter into a different species,
>     because such
>     > differences are what define different species. Overall, most
>     already know
>     > that the Duckfaced Otter only *looks* like an otter, really
>     isn't. But they
>     > still call it the Duckfaced Otter because that's what the
>     language calls
>     > it. Who among us ever gets to successfully take on the language?
>     >
>     > ---End of Parable---
>     >
>     > Beverage                       Otter
>     >
>     > On-ground Beverage     Duckfaced Otter
>     >
>     > Both are a longish          Both have brown
>     > wire parallel to earth,      water repellent fur coat.
>     > only used for RX.            and love the water.
>     >
>     > Isn't it really about time that the masses on the reflectors
>     know that a
>     > BOG has irritating issues that no up-in-the-air beverage has to
>     design
>     > around, but must be taken into account designing a BOG? That any
>     Beverage
>     > strategy has to be analyzed laying on the ground to see if it really
>     > applies to a BOG?
>     >
>     > The antenna category is Ground Low Velocity Factor. The short
>     for that
>     > could be GLVF, except we already call those -on-ground or OG.
>     Dipole on
>     > Ground is a DOG, Loop on Ground is a LOG, Beverage on ground is
>     a BOG. In
>     > this system "Beverage" is only one possible shape of the wire
>     laying on the
>     > ground. How a BOG behaves and how to engineer/model one is
>     really only one
>     > application of how OG behaves and how to engineer OG.
>     >
>     > I think OG is just fine. I don't think OG needs a new name. Just
>     remember
>     > that BOG is only one shape instance of OG, and OG controls the
>     engineering.
>     >
>     > 73, Guy K2AV
>     >
>     > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 6:38 PM Chortek, Robert L. <
>     > Robert.Chortek at berliner.com
>     <mailto:Robert.Chortek at berliner.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     >> I don’t think it matters what label we use as long as we correctly
>     >> understand its electrical properties.....
>     >>
>     >> AA6VB
>     >>
>     >> Bob
>     >> Robert L. Chortek
>     >>
>     >>> On Dec 2, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA
>     <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca <mailto:ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>> wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>> [External Email]
>     >>>
>     >>> K2AV says ".BOG is not a Beverage. So don't think about or
>     treat a BOG
>     >> like
>     >>> a Beverage."
>     >>>
>     >>> <snip>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> You seem pretty adamant about that Guy.
>     >>>
>     >>> What *SHOULD* we be calling it then please?
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> Mike VE9AA
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> Keswick Ridge, NB
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
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