Speaking of 3D2AG Does anyone know why Tony does not show any CW contacts ( 160 or otherwise) in his Online ( club-log) Log? The FT8 & FT4 confirmations are there but no CW. I have asked him a couple of times about it and he ignores the question ...odd Grumpy Dave NR1DX -- Dave Manuals at ArtekManuals.com www.ArtekManuals.com