Topband: Blatant cheating using Remote Operation

[donovanf at starpower.net]

Cecil, 


Please think again. 


Many topbanders use antennas and feedlines that extend beyond 
a 500 meter diameter circle. Please don't disparage us. 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 

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From: "Cecil" <chacuff at cableone.net> 
To: "thorvaldur S T E F A N S S O N" <otradalur at gmail.com> 
Cc: "Greg - ZL3IX" <zl3ix at inet.net.nz>, "topband" <topband at contesting.com> 
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:50:04 PM 
Subject: Re: Topband: Blatant cheating using Remote Operation 

I think the key word is “Station” which assumes that 500M diameter circle encompasses all aspects of the station to include feedlines and antennas. 

A transmitter and/or receiver are not a station without their associated antenna systems. 

Cecil 
K5DL 

Sent from my iPad 

> On Oct 13, 2019, at 11:39 AM, thorvaldur S T E F A N S S O N <otradalur at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> May I respectfully point out that DXCC rule 9: b) says: 
> 
> *b)* All transmitters and receivers comprising a station used for a 
> specific contact must be located within a 500-meter diameter circle. 
> 
> Although it is a rather "strange" rule, it only mentions transmitters and 
> receivers, it thankfully does not mention antennas at all. 
> 
> 73 Thor, TF4M 
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 7:00 PM Greg - ZL3IX <zl3ix at inet.net.nz> wrote: 
>> 
>> Guys need to be more discriminatory when discussing remote operation. I 
>> use a remote installation, and have for years, but I abide by the DXCC 
>> rules which state that the Tx and Rx antennas have to be within 500 m of 
>> each other. Furthermore, this installation I designed and built myself, 
>> and I maintain myself, with great effort. This practice should NOT be 
>> equated with the practice of using a random Rx installation on the Net, 
>> probably not even in the same country as the operator using it. 
>> 
>> 73, Greg, ZL3IX 
>> 
>>> On 2019-10-13 07:34, WW3S wrote: 
>>> Good for you Roger....you always hear about hams using remotes to work 
>> the dx, but they don’t usually say much when the dx uses a remote to hear 
>> them.... 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 12, 2019, at 1:21 PM, Roger D Johnson <n1rj at roadrunner.com> 
>> wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> There is no way an organization such as the ARRL can prevent cheating 
>> in the DXCC program. It has to depend on the honesty of the hams involved. 
>> Yes..some 
>>>> people will cheat but I can't see how they can derive any satisfaction 
>> from 
>>>> that. 
>>>> 
>>>> Last year I worked VU2GSM on Top Band. I heard rumors that Kanti used 
>> remote 
>>>> receiving locations and, when asked, he freely admitted it. He's in my 
>> log 
>>>> but I didn't claim credit for that contact. 
>>>> 
>>>> YMMV! 
>>>> 
>>>> 73, Roger N1RJ 
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