Topband: Blatant cheating using Remote Operation

[Cecil]

It’s not my intent to disparage anyone. Just an attempt to better define the intent of the rule as it relates to what a station is.  Maybe if the feed point of those antennas are within the circle it’s good to go. Beyond that maybe another rule applies.

Cecil
K5DL

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> On Oct 13, 2019, at 1:04 PM, donovanf at starpower.net wrote:
> 
> 
> Cecil,
> 
> Please think again.   
> 
> Many topbanders use antennas and feedlines that extend beyond
> a 500 meter diameter circle.  Please don't disparage us.
> 
> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
> 
> From: "Cecil" <chacuff at cableone.net>
> To: "thorvaldur S T E F A N S S O N" <otradalur at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Greg - ZL3IX" <zl3ix at inet.net.nz>, "topband" <topband at contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:50:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Topband: Blatant cheating using Remote Operation
> 
> I think the key word is “Station” which assumes that 500M diameter circle encompasses all aspects of the station to include feedlines and antennas.
> 
> A transmitter and/or receiver are not a station without their associated antenna systems.
> 
> Cecil
> K5DL
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On Oct 13, 2019, at 11:39 AM, thorvaldur S T E F A N S S O N <otradalur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > May I respectfully point out that DXCC rule 9: b) says:
> > 
> > *b)* All transmitters and receivers comprising a station used for a
> > specific contact must be located within a 500-meter diameter circle.
> > 
> > Although it is a rather "strange" rule, it only mentions transmitters and
> > receivers, it thankfully does not mention antennas at all.
> > 
> > 73 Thor, TF4M
> > 
> >> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 7:00 PM Greg - ZL3IX <zl3ix at inet.net.nz> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Guys need to be more discriminatory when discussing remote operation. I
> >> use a remote installation, and have for years, but I abide by the DXCC
> >> rules which state that the Tx and Rx antennas have to be within 500 m of
> >> each other. Furthermore, this installation I designed and built myself,
> >> and I maintain myself, with great effort. This practice should NOT be
> >> equated with the practice of using a random Rx installation on the Net,
> >> probably not even in the same country as the operator using it.
> >> 
> >> 73, Greg, ZL3IX
> >> 
> >>> On 2019-10-13 07:34, WW3S wrote:
> >>> Good for you Roger....you always hear about hams using remotes to work
> >> the dx, but they don’t usually say much when the dx uses a remote to hear
> >> them....
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>> 
> >>>> On Oct 12, 2019, at 1:21 PM, Roger D Johnson <n1rj at roadrunner.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> There is no way an organization such as the ARRL can prevent cheating
> >> in the DXCC program. It has to depend on the honesty of the hams involved.
> >> Yes..some
> >>>> people will cheat but I can't see how they can derive any satisfaction
> >> from
> >>>> that.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Last year I worked VU2GSM on Top Band. I heard rumors that Kanti used
> >> remote
> >>>> receiving locations and, when asked, he freely admitted it. He's in my
> >> log
> >>>> but I didn't claim credit for that contact.
> >>>> 
> >>>> YMMV!
> >>>> 
> >>>> 73, Roger N1RJ
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