Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 205, Issue 21
Mike Devereux
g3sed at aol.com
Fri Jan 17 04:59:49 EST 2020
Roger
I had a great night working Asia HS0 and lots of JA also USA. Conditions here seemed good. Was using my Dipole!
Mike G 3 SED
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> 1. Re: Topband resource (W0MU Mike Fatchett)
> 2. Re: Topband resource (Roger Parsons)
> 3. Re: Topband resource vertical vs. horizontal (David Olean)
> 4. Re: Topband resource (Jim Brown)
> 5. Hamvention related updates (Tim Duffy)
> 6. Re: Topband resource (Jim Brown)
> 7. Topband resource (Lee STRAHAN)
> 8. Re: Topband resource (Jim Brown)
> 9. Re: Topband resource (Arthur Delibert)
> 10. Re: Topband resource (Roger Parsons)
> 11. Re: Topband resource (Jim Brown)
> 12. Re: Topband resource (Roger Parsons)
> 13. Topband resource (Jim Thomson)
> 14. Wednesday 160m DX CW Activity Night (Roger Kennedy)
> 15. Re: Wednesday 160m DX CW Activity Night (Sam Josuweit)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 10:53:32 -0700
> From: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com>
> To: topband at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: Topband resource
> Message-ID: <7702344f-b0a0-1a2a-f943-3b69a509d683 at w0mu.com>
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> I was only really able to work Carib/CA/SA with my inverted v at 70 ft.?
> With the inverted L I get our far better.? I am a very long way from any
> salt water in any direction.
>
> W0MU
>
>> On 1/15/2020 9:17 AM, donovanf at starpower.net wrote:
>> Roger has 27 topband QSOs in my log since February 1993,
>> well done!
>>
>>
>> Its interesting how our transmitting antenna experiences are exactly
>> opposite on both 160 and 80 meters. I've had little success with
>> 160 meter horizontal dipoles 100 to 200 feet high compared to
>> my 4-square vertical array which always perform superbly.
>>
>>
>> I use only vertically polarized antennas f or topband receiving ,
>> a 350 foot diameter W8JI/W5ZN/N4HY passive 8-circle array,
>> 580 foot Beverages and my transmitting 4-square array. All
>> receive 6 to 10 dB better for DX than horizontal dipoles at my QTH.
>> Many easily copied DX signals on the verticals are completely
>> inaudible on the horizontal dipoles.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 80 meters I use only horizontally polarized 2 element quads
>> 170 feet high for transmitting which are far superior to any verticals
>> I've tried although I've never tried anything more sophisticated than
>> a 4-square transmitting array.
>>
>>
>> My 80 meter quads perform very well as receiving antennas, on
>> some -- but not all -- very weak signals they outperform the
>> 175 foot diameter passive 8-circle array and 580 foot Beverages.
>>
>>
>> You can never have too many antennas...
>> Unless they interfere with each other, a non-trivial issue.
>>
>>
>> 73
>> Frank
>> W3LPL
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Roger Kennedy" <roger at wessexproductions.co.uk>
>> To: topband at contesting.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 10:48:51 PM
>> Subject: Topband: Topband resource
>>
>>
>> "However, 160 needs vertical polarization for consistent long DX."
>>
>> So how is it that I consistently work all over the world on 160m with my
>> horizontal dipole at 50ft?! (and my signals seem to often be pretty
>> comparable with other Brits using verticals}
>>
>> You certainly need a Vertical to work DX on 80m . . . but in my experience
>> 160m propagation is very different . . . I'm guessing it's often quite high
>> angle due to multi-hop or ducting.
>>
>> Also, I don't understand why on the Web page they are talking about NA
>> stations coming on Top Band at 1730 UTC to work Europe . . . I don't find
>> the band opens to NA until at least 2200 . . . and for me signals are always
>> much better after midnight.
>>
>> Roger G3YRO
>>
>>
>> _________________
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 17:55:15 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Roger Parsons <ve3zi at yahoo.com>
> To: TopBand List <topband at contesting.com>
> Cc: "Manuals at ArtekManuals.com" <Manuals at ArtekManuals.com>
> Subject: Re: Topband: Topband resource
> Message-ID: <951245210.13893125.1579110915703 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> NR1DX wrote: "Apples and oranges." regarding my antennas.
>
> Not really.
>
> There is very little pattern difference between a purely horizontal dipole and an inverted V provided that the angle of the V is not too acute. A horizontal dipole 5/8 wavelength high has predominantly low angle? radiation.
>
> W4RNL is sadly an SK. However, he designed and described a great many antenna systems one of which is a half wave vertical array for 160m. I have one. Here.
>
> 73 Roger
> VE3ZI
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 18:07:38 +0000
> From: David Olean <k1whs at metrocast.net>
> To: donovanf at starpower.net, topband at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: Topband resource vertical vs. horizontal
> Message-ID: <e131a7d6-c187-c45d-b38b-9221c54e477a at metrocast.net>
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> I was always intrigued by the success of our "Down Under" friends in
> VK6. They tried vertical polarization and it was horrible. They had much
> better luck with horizontal wires.? I think this had much to do with the
> gyro frequency.? It depends on where you are in the world.? I am about
> 30 miles away from salt water. My ground is poor with hills and rocky
> soil.? The tops of the local hills are solid rock. ? I tried an inverted
> vee antenna for 160. It worked, but not very well.? My signal was sort
> of like chopped liver. No one would answer me when I called!? I did
> catch an opening, however, where it worked very well and I nabbed two JA
> stations. I have a recording of one of the? QSOs , and my signal got
> very loud in JA at times. Switching to a vertical here, there was no
> comparison. I went from chopped liver to meat loaf and gravy. Still it
> was a long time before I worked another JA, and when I did, it was a
> squeaker!
>
> 73
>
> Dave K1WHS
>
>> On 1/15/2020 4:17 PM, donovanf at starpower.net wrote:
>> Roger has 27 topband QSOs in my log since February 1993,
>> well done!
>>
>>
>> Its interesting how our transmitting antenna experiences are exactly
>> opposite on both 160 and 80 meters. I've had little success with
>> 160 meter horizontal dipoles 100 to 200 feet high compared to
>> my 4-square vertical array which always perform superbly.
>>
>>
>> I use only vertically polarized antennas f or topband receiving ,
>> a 350 foot diameter W8JI/W5ZN/N4HY passive 8-circle array,
>> 580 foot Beverages and my transmitting 4-square array. All
>> receive 6 to 10 dB better for DX than horizontal dipoles at my QTH.
>> Many easily copied DX signals on the verticals are completely
>> inaudible on the horizontal dipoles.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 80 meters I use only horizontally polarized 2 element quads
>> 170 feet high for transmitting which are far superior to any verticals
>> I've tried although I've never tried anything more sophisticated than
>> a 4-square transmitting array.
>>
>>
>> My 80 meter quads perform very well as receiving antennas, on
>> some -- but not all -- very weak signals they outperform the
>> 175 foot diameter passive 8-circle array and 580 foot Beverages.
>>
>>
>> You can never have too many antennas...
>> Unless they interfere with each other, a non-trivial issue.
>>
>>
>> 73
>> Frank
>> W3LPL
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Roger Kennedy" <roger at wessexproductions.co.uk>
>> To: topband at contesting.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 10:48:51 PM
>> Subject: Topband: Topband resource
>>
>>
>> "However, 160 needs vertical polarization for consistent long DX."
>>
>> So how is it that I consistently work all over the world on 160m with my
>> horizontal dipole at 50ft?! (and my signals seem to often be pretty
>> comparable with other Brits using verticals}
>>
>> You certainly need a Vertical to work DX on 80m . . . but in my experience
>> 160m propagation is very different . . . I'm guessing it's often quite high
>> angle due to multi-hop or ducting.
>>
>> Also, I don't understand why on the Web page they are talking about NA
>> stations coming on Top Band at 1730 UTC to work Europe . . . I don't find
>> the band opens to NA until at least 2200 . . . and for me signals are always
>> much better after midnight.
>>
>> Roger G3YRO
>>
>>
>> _________________
>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
>>
>> _________________
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 10:44:36 -0800
> From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: topband at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: Topband resource
> Message-ID:
> <44c7f6e0-6802-364d-d982-3678a67d0d2c at audiosystemsgroup.com>
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> It's more than antennas. There's also propagation. You're 700 miles ESE
> of me, which gives you a path to EU over less of the auroral zone.
>
> AND there's noise, which has been increasing over time. My first years
> in W6 were more productive for CW on Topband than now -- I have a dozen
> or so countries in the log from the solar minimum of those earlier years.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>> On 1/15/2020 6:21 AM, Wes wrote:
>> Roger is in my logbook, along with at least five other "G" stations.? My
>> station is described on my QRZ page.? I receive on the TX antenna.
>>
>> Wes? N7WS
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 13:44:46 -0500
> From: "Tim Duffy" <k3lr at k3lr.com>
> To: <topband at contesting.com>
> Subject: Topband: Hamvention related updates
> Message-ID: <005001d5cbd3$dc680440$95380cc0$@k3lr.com>
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> 2020 Dayton Contest University Professors and the 2020 Course Outline have
> been posted.
>
> <https://www.contestuniversity.com/> https://www.contestuniversity.com/
>
> <https://www.contestuniversity.com/course-outline/>
> https://www.contestuniversity.com/course-outline/
>
>
>
> 2020 Dayton TopBand Dinner speaker is Glenn Johnson, W0GJ
>
> <https://www.topbanddinner.com/> https://www.topbanddinner.com/
>
> Info about Glenn's talk is here:
>
> <https://www.topbanddinner.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/VP6R-pg1-3.pdf>
> https://www.topbanddinner.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/VP6R-pg1-3.pdf
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>
> Our dinner speaker is Bryant, KG5HVO - his bio is here:
>
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> <https://www.contestdinner.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Bryant-Rascoll-KG5
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> https://www.contestdinner.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Bryant-Rascoll-KG5H
> VO.pdf
>
>
>
> 73
>
> Tim K3LR
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 10:59:02 -0800
> From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: topband at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: Topband resource
> Message-ID:
> <95b6203b-23e9-b2e4-1f0a-4f59174130d4 at audiosystemsgroup.com>
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>> On 1/15/2020 9:55 AM, Roger Parsons via Topband wrote:
>> There is very little pattern difference between a purely horizontal dipole and an inverted V provided that the angle of the V is not too acute. A horizontal dipole 5/8 wavelength high has predominantly low angle? radiation.
>
> But there IS a difference in efficiency that looking ONLY at the pattern
> misses. To understand this, take a look at
>
> http://k9yc.com/VertOrHorizontal-Slides.pdf
>
> starting around slide #18, which plots the pattern of an 80M dipole as
> it's height is varied ON THE SAME AXES, and the following slide, which
> picks points off of those curves to show gain vs height at vertical
> angles of 5, 10, 15, 20, and 70 degrees. Slide #19 clearly shows that
> gain at low angles increases with mounting height. To apply these data
> to 160M, simply multiply height by 2.
>
> There is, of course, also the matter of how horizontally and vertically
> polarized waves propagate, and how they are affected by nearby earth.
> Vertically polarized waves encounter a very strong loss component from
> poor soil conductivity, while horizontally polarized waves are almost
> unaffected.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 19:13:43 +0000
> From: Lee STRAHAN <k7tjr at msn.com>
> To: "topband at contesting.com" <topband at contesting.com>
> Subject: Topband: Topband resource
> Message-ID:
> <MWHPR05MB28163BDA6E7E5B04DB0719C9F5370 at MWHPR05MB2816.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
>
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> And from the Northwest I have a slightly different observation of horizontal/vertical questions. What I have noticed is this. I more or less equate Horizontal antennas with high angle and vertical with low. The EU stations are usually mostly looking West into the setting sun. The East coast stations are looking into the total darkness toward EU mostly. Here in the Northwest we look into darkness toward EU and the East coast. I mention this because observations of high angle signals are VERY rare looking East toward EU. Maybe twice in 10 years. However looking West toward the setting sun and JA and UA0 I often see signals start early on the low angle vertical antennas and progress toward high angle signals in a same setting. The low horizontal takes over as the signals apparently get to a higher angle. I am about 200 miles from the Pacific. I have on my project list (way way down it) to build a high angle, low elevation horizontal array with a high RDF and gain just to see what it
> would do. Unfortunately it stays way down the list.
> For me Frank LPL says it all " You can never have too many antennas...
> Unless they interfere with each other, a non-trivial issue."
> Lee K7TJR OR
>
>
> It's more than antennas. There's also propagation. You're 700 miles ESE of me, which gives you a path to EU over less of the auroral zone.
>
> AND there's noise, which has been increasing over time. My first years in W6 were more productive for CW on Topband than now -- I have a dozen or so countries in the log from the solar minimum of those earlier years.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>> On 1/15/2020 6:21 AM, Wes wrote:
>> Roger is in my logbook, along with at least five other "G" stations.?
>> My station is described on my QRZ page.? I receive on the TX antenna.
>>
>> Wes? N7WS
>
> _________________
> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 11:56:34 -0800
> From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: topband at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: Topband resource
> Message-ID:
> <7145684d-f7eb-21e9-5624-5c9a4d466b97 at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
>> On 1/15/2020 11:13 AM, Lee STRAHAN wrote:
>> And from the Northwest I have a slightly different observation of horizontal/vertical questions.
>
> Your analysis makes lots of sense, Lee. It's consistent with what I've
> read from trustworthy sources about propagation.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 20:06:36 +0000
> From: Arthur Delibert <radio75a3 at msn.com>
> To: "topband at contesting.com" <topband at contesting.com>,
> "jim at audiosystemsgroup.com" <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> Subject: Re: Topband: Topband resource
> Message-ID:
> <SN6PR10MB26089AC28AC176BF2ABC746FE4370 at SN6PR10MB2608.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>
>
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> Back in the late 90s, there were a pair of articles in QST about a receiving antenna for 80 and 160 that rejects local noise. The antenna was low and horizontal, it was exceptionally quiet even in a somewhat noisy location, and it had a very high reception angle. I recall that the authors said they could hear pretty much everything the "big boys" could hear, but for a shorter window of time. Also seems consistent with what Lee said.
>
> Overall, I have to say that 160M propagation is still somewhat mysterious, and we should be careful about judging too quickly what others describe as their experience. We're like the three blind men describing the elephant: each of us has hold of a different part and so we have different experiences. We won't understand the full picture until we respect and appreciate each other's experiences.
>
> 'Nuf said.
>
> Art Delibert, KB3FJO
>
> ________________________________
> From: Topband <topband-bounces+radio75a3=msn.com at contesting.com> on behalf of Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 2:56 PM
> To: topband at contesting.com <topband at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: Topband: Topband resource
>
>> On 1/15/2020 11:13 AM, Lee STRAHAN wrote:
>> And from the Northwest I have a slightly different observation of horizontal/vertical questions.
>
> Your analysis makes lots of sense, Lee. It's consistent with what I've
> read from trustworthy sources about propagation.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
> _________________
> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 21:25:15 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Roger Parsons <ve3zi at yahoo.com>
> To: Topband <topband at contesting.com>, "jim at audiosystemsgroup.com"
> <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> Subject: Re: Topband: Topband resource
> Message-ID: <1518173527.14041626.1579123515579 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> K9YC wrote: "But there IS a difference in efficiency that looking ONLY at the pattern misses."
>
> Your point is unclear to me. Of course the pattern of a horizontal antenna changes with changing height and with other environmental factors. If the antenna is actually on the ground the efficiency is pretty terrible, but it does not have to be very high before efficiency does not change meaningfully with height - assuming that total radiation is considered rather than just that which is useful.
>
> However, I was only describing a horizontal dipole at around 5/8 wavelength high. NR1DX suggested that because the ends are lower than the centre that there was now an additional "significant vertical component". There is not if the included angle is shallow, which in my case it is.*
>
> 73 Roger
> VE3ZI
>
> *(I stated that the ends were at 250' - they are at least that, and could be up to about 290' - but I have not accurately measured the tension in the support rope nor allowed for stretch so I cannot be specific about the catenary.)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:05:29 -0800
> From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: topband at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: Topband resource
> Message-ID:
> <67e9dc98-c95d-7d1e-73ad-86c466694923 at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
>> On 1/15/2020 1:25 PM, Roger Parsons via Topband wrote:
>> Your point is unclear to me.
>
> Did you study the slides?
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 23:36:22 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Roger Parsons <ve3zi at yahoo.com>
> To: Topband <topband at contesting.com>, "jim at audiosystemsgroup.com"
> <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> Subject: Re: Topband: Topband resource
> Message-ID: <1797291964.14123383.1579131382152 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Yes
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 21:05:27 -0800
> From: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom at telus.net>
> To: "TopBand List" <topband at contesting.com>
> Subject: Topband: Topband resource
> Message-ID: <9F9A9A2454FD459D8243CE20F30DE4CE at DESKTOPSV54DBH>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 15:58:57 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Roger Parsons <ve3zi at yahoo.com>
> To: topband at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: Topband resource
>
> <W8JI's experience with a horizontal dipole at 300 ft is often quoted as proof that only vertical antennas are useful for 160m DX. This is not my experience with a dipole with the centre at 320 ft and the ends at over 250'. In its favoured directions it is equal to a <W4RNL half wave vertical array over a very large radial system. It is unsurprisingly not as good off the ends, and quite is useless for relatively local communications.
> <I am also inclined to support Roger, G3YRO, in his use of a low dipole, having myself successfully used relatively low horizontal antennas for DX in the past. There are most certainly times when higher angles are useful for DX - and possibly more frequently than <we imagine. There actually have to be, otherwise Roger would never work any DX at all. Note, this does not mean that a good vertical antenna is not often or even usually better than a low horizontal one. Finally, the UK is small compared to many other <countries, but it is not actually a tiny island. Roger's path to North America is over about 300 km of land, and he is more than 10km from the sea in any direction.
>
> <73 RogerVE3ZI/G3RBP
>
> ## AFAIK, W8JIs.. dipole was actually an inverted vee, with the apex at 300 feet....with no info on enclosed angle.
> Per the older arrl ant books, Inverted vees...with a 90 deg enclosed angle are omni directional.
> But they conducted that test on 80m, with an inverted vee up 60 feet, with a 90 deg enclosed angle. The vee was rotated 90 degs....
> and signals 900 miles away did not change. No mention whether a real CM balun was used.
>
> ## Plenty of 80m rotary dipoles and 80m yagis that perform exceptionally well..at heights of 100-150 ft. That would extrapolate to 200-300 ft
> on 160m. Years ago, a fellow In Ore had installed the 1st F12 160 rotary dipole.... which I believe was up aprx 120 ft. His 1st contact
> was a 4X4. Several folks with 2 el....shorty 40 yagis up 70 ft, report that the shorty 40 yagi ate their 40m 4 squares hands down.
> Some have had great success with a half wave sloper......used in conjunction with a delta loop reflector...apex up. In some cases, a half wave sloper
> was used on either side of the delta loop REF. So 2 switchable directions were obtained.
>
> Jim VE7RF
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 16:00:42 -0000
> From: "Roger Kennedy" <roger at wessexproductions.co.uk>
> To: <topband at contesting.com>
> Subject: Topband: Wednesday 160m DX CW Activity Night
> Message-ID: <8A0C7DAFAD1D4A90BF2B36830597E599 at Packard>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> Well sadly conditions seemed very poor last night . . .
>
> My own signals were 20 to 30dB down on what I would normally see on NA RBN
> sites
>
> I managed just 4 NA QSOs . . . but heard several other people calling me
> that were way down in the noise.
>
> Not sure how many stations were on across the pond, but heard lots of other
> EU stations calling CQ, but getting few replies.
>
> Thanks to all those that made the effort to come on the band . . . let's
> hope conditions are better next Wednesday !
>
> 73 Roger G3YRO
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 11:20:41 -0500
> From: "Sam Josuweit" <samjos at epix.net>
> To: "'Roger Kennedy'" <roger at wessexproductions.co.uk>,
> <topband at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: Topband: Wednesday 160m DX CW Activity Night
> Message-ID: <003f01d5cc88$e5fb2e00$b1f18a00$@epix.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Lots of static crashes from a storm front moving into the NE US. Very noisy
> last night.
>
> Sam(N3XZ)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces+samjos=epix.net at contesting.com] On
> Behalf Of Roger Kennedy
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 11:01 AM
> To: topband at contesting.com
> Subject: Topband: Wednesday 160m DX CW Activity Night
>
>
> Well sadly conditions seemed very poor last night . . .
>
> My own signals were 20 to 30dB down on what I would normally see on NA RBN
> sites
>
> I managed just 4 NA QSOs . . . but heard several other people calling me
> that were way down in the noise.
>
> Not sure how many stations were on across the pond, but heard lots of other
> EU stations calling CQ, but getting few replies.
>
> Thanks to all those that made the effort to come on the band . . . let's
> hope conditions are better next Wednesday !
>
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