Topband: Fwd: Re: Adding connectoirs to CATV Hardline

[terry burge]

FYI...

A friend provided a 4 ft. spool of 1/2" hardline 75 ohm stuff from a lot he was cleaning up of what appeared to be Comscope coax. Size was 0.595" outside diameter aluminum (no black covering, silver) with copper center conductor of 0.122" best I could figure with my Harbor Freight 'Pittsburg' measuring device. Inner shield 0.35" or so. On the internet I found a site that showed how to use PL-259 with hardline and two sizes of brass tubing. Don't remember the sizes but they were something like 9/16" and maybe one size down. Required splitting an end of the brass tubing and trying to get a good fit over the outside of the back-to-back SO-239's. 
I used the double SO-259's instead of PL-259's. 

Would then use double layers of heat shrink tubing and screw down hose clamps to give it some strength. The copper center conductor required trying to add solder to build up it's diameter to to fit tight enough inside the SO-239's. Tough task I can tell you. Wasn't a real strong connection so you had to be careful especially if pulling on the connection up on the tower or on the ground. Still it seemed to work but the jury is still out at my location. Could not see any other way to do this than maybe using wire jumpers like some Baluns use.

You might look for the site and/or trying to develop something like this. Like I said, the connection had to be used gently. 75 ohm coax to 50 ohm connection so maybe some creative thought on that.

Terry
KI7M

> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: RT Clay <rt_clay at bellsouth.net>
> To: topband at contesting.com
> Date: June 4, 2020 at 12:21 PM
> Subject: Re: Topband: Adding connectoirs to CATV Hardline
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> Plumbing parts work, but the problem is that there is a lot of catv hardline that is an odd size. For example, I have  some 0.412 inch diameter cable and some 0.540 inch cable. That is what motivated me to learn how to use pin connectors.
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> Tor N4OGW
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> On Thursday, June 4, 2020, 2:00:38 PM CDT, <lee at k7tjr.com> wrote: 
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> Hi Guys,
>     There is an article in one of the ham magazines from years ago that describes how to make an adapter from brass tubing compression sleve fittings (from auto parts store) that adapts from 1/2 inch CATV Hardline cable to UHF male connectors RG-8 size. Anti-oxidants required. I have been doing this for years with no problems at 1500 watts. There is a pair on my 80 meter 4-square as we speak. Its been so long that I have since forgotten where the article was. Perhaps an internet search would bring it up. I would write something up but I have my hands full at the moment with cleaning up after a tornado like storm with 100 MPH winds that went right over my house. Minimal damage except for the top 1/3 of my 160 vertical and lots of tall trees down in what's left of the yard. All else is fine with nothing I can't repair.
>     Good luck.
> Lee  K7TJR  Culver OR
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> Clamps do work ok with CATV hardline, but you have to be careful as it is very easy to crush the hardline. Also, waterproofing is always a pain.
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> As W7WKR posted, I also adapt pin connectors, which are the standard way of terminating catv hardline. Here are some comments:
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> Pin connectors have the same thread size (5/8") that is found on so-239s or N connectors. They are fairly cheap to buy new or can be found on ebay. One difficulty with pin connectors compared to many other hardline connectors is that it is nearly impossible to install them on catv hardline unless you have  a coring tool of the right size to fit the hardline. This is because the pin connectors clamp onto the shield from both sides, so you have to completely remove the insulation from the hardline for 1-2" back up into the cable. Coring tools are > $100 new, but I have found them used for $20-$40. The used ones are often pretty worn out: however, with care you can sharpen the cutting parts with a file or stone, which makes a big difference. It can also be tricky to figure out how much center conductor you need sticking out for a given pin connector- some of the connectors have little tick marks on the outside that show the correct length to cut the center conductor.
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> Once you have the pin connector on, then:
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> 1. For type N: the body of a "clamp" type N connector will screw directly onto the pin connector (discard the smaller clamp part with male threads that normally goes on the RG-8). I just cut the pin to length and file the end down to a point. You do have to be careful that the point is not too wide, otherwise it might break the female contact.
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> 2. For UHF: there are similar clamp-type UHF connectors available with the same 5/8 thread in the connector body. Here is one example:
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> https://www.w5swl.com/Coax-Connector-UHF-Female-Clamp-fits-RG-8AU-RG-213-Series-Cable--by-W5SWL_p_466.html
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> just cut the pin to the right length, solder on the center female connector, and screw the body on.
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> 3. You can also just drill a hole in a metal box and attach the pin connector with a nut meant to go on SO239s.
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> There are also splice connectors to join two pieces of hardline. These are nice because they don't require any waterproofing. There are also some that end in an F connector instead of a pin.
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> Tor
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