Topband: ARRL 160M and 1830-1835 change

[GEORGE WALLNER]

Tim,
You are right. In theory the window could work. But the problem is that 
those (non-DX) who violate the rules suffer no consequences. Therefore, 
those with the cheek gain an advantage.
But,..
A much (much) bigger problem is stations with strong clicks. I believe that 
some may be intentional. If you have strong clicks you will have fewer 
stations near "your" frequency. The result is a quieter frequency and a 
higher QSO rate! (While the rest of us get squeezed even more.)
In any case, clicks, whether intentional or just the result of either 
negligence or a poorly set up station, should not give the source station an 
advantage!

73,
George,
C6AGU




On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 21:42:02 -0400
  Tim Shoppa <tshoppa at gmail.com> wrote:
> George, in ARRL 160 the DX would *only* be looking for W/VE  if CQing during the contest. So the DX Window concept has some value (if anyone ever respected it which they didn’t).
>
> This is a fundamental difference from CQ160 where DX can work DX for points.
>
> Arguably DX-only-works-W/VE makes ARRL 160 less popular with some segments of DX hams. It’s certainly a fundamental part of the ARRL 160 DNA.
>> On Oct 22, 2020, at 9:31 PM, GEORGE WALLNER <aa7jv at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
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>> If 1,830 - 1,835 is reserved for "intercontinental contacts", who will should CQ? The DX? He is not a DX on his own continent. These "DX windows" are not practical.
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>> 73,
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>> George
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>> C6AGU/AA7JV
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>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 14:43:52 +0000 (UTC)
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>> Jon Zaimes via Topband <topband at contesting.com> wrote:
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>> Interesting Tim.
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>> November QST came in a few days ago, and the summary of rules in there says "1.830-1.835 MHz should be used for intercontinental contacts only."
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>> Dropping that rule was long overdue so glad to see it stated in the rules online. 
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>> 73/Jon AA1K
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> From: Tim Shoppa <tshoppa at gmail.com>
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>> To: topBand List <topband at contesting.com>
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>> Sent: Thu, Oct 22, 2020 9:35 am
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>> Subject: Topband: ARRL 160M and 1830-1835 change
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>> Also as I review this years ARRL 160M rules...
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>> An earlier version of the rules (current in 2012) here
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>> http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Contest%20Rules%20PDFs/2012/2012-160M-Rules-V2.pdf
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>> says "6.1 The segment 1.830 to 1.835 should be used for intercontinental
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>> QSOs only".
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>> The latest version here
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>> https://contests.arrl.org/ContestRules/160M-Rules.pdf notes that "6. the
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>> 1830-135 kHz window is no longer reserved for W/VE-to-DX QSOs in this
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>> contest".
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>> Does anyone recall, when the rule was officially changed? It wasn't being
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>> well respected in some previous years if it was in effect.
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>>
>> Tim N3QE
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