Topband: Phased Short Beverages

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My property is similar, sloping away from the house to maybe 40’ below in all directions. I wonder how much of an issue that is with a 4 square. The property is about 300 x 300 square so there is no real room for any beverages. The 4 square would be sitting maybe 25’ below the high point (SE corner) of the property with mostly equal to lower elevation in the surrounding terrain.

73, Bill WE5P

Comfortably Numb

> On Jan 12, 2021, at 14:06, fmoeves <fmoeves at twc.com> wrote:
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> Frank,Thanks for help.The property is on a slope that dumps into a creek then back up another slope. I don't think a 4 square would work i these conditions. I was surprised how well the short Beverages worked out.But wanted to try to do better. Last summer I was able to get up a 580' Beverage but it was bent to fit my lot.I just started using it and then i noticed the signal dropped. I checked the antenna and some critter chewed up the feedline. I replaced and it and it was quickly chewed up again. I didn't have enough time to evaluate it to see if it was even worth the effort. I may try again this summer but it had a pretty severe bend in it.I have considered the NCC-2Thanks again for the suggestions. 73Fred KB4QZH
> -------- Original message --------From: donovanf at erols.com Date: 1/12/21  1:17 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: topband at contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Phased Short Beverages Hi Fred,A single 300 foot Beverage has excellent front-to-back ratio butvery broad 150 degree 3 dB beamwidth on 160 meters,A 580 foot Beverage has approximately 80 degree 3 dB beamwidth,and it works very well on 160, 80 and 40 meters, one of thereasons why that length is so popular.Two broadside phased 300 foot Beverages have 160 meter performancesimilar to a single 580 foot Beverage, but the required broadsidespacing is at least 300 feet, preferably 350 feet.A pair of staggered Beverages occupies 430 feet.  Staggered Beverages only improve front-to-back ratio, they are especially effective whenused in conjunction with a DX Engineering NCC-2 controller.If you installed a single 430 foot Beverage your front-to backratio is still excellent and the 3 dB beamwidth is reduced to about120 degrees.Have you considered a Hi-Z (or a homebrew) 4-square receiving arraywith four short active or passive verticals?  Its performance is similar to a 580 foot Beverage on only an 80 x 80 foot space and far superiorto simple single loops.You can improve the broad 3 dB beamwidth of any small loop bybroadside phasing of two loops, but the required broadside spacingis 300 feet, preferably 350 feet.73FrankW3LPLFrom: "Fred Moeves" <fmoeves at twc.com>To: topband at contesting.comSent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 5:55:59 PMSubject: Topband: Phased Short BeveragesWhile watching another one of Steve's(VE6WZ) awesome videos got me to thinking about doing this to with short Beverages...I thinking about end-fire phased where one stepped in front of the other.I have read what ON4UN has written on this subject and just how close you can have Beverages with out real problems with coupling.So has anyone on topband try this and what was your thoughts?Would it be a worthwhile effort.What about 2 loops,flags?Would it be better then a 300' Beverage?Anyway just thinking out loud and trying to improve my system.73Fred KB4QZH_________________Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
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