Topband: Phased Short Beverages

[Fred Moeves]

I think the topography here 4 square is out.
It's pretty steep on either side of my creek.

So I think that leaves Beverages and loops.

I think I will try to realign my NE Beverage to get 580' out of it.
Since that would be 80 degrees beamwidth I might be able to move it more 
north but still cover Europe.
I'll be looking over Google Earth and NS6T's  azimuthal map and see how 
I can get this accomplished.
I'm glad I used my GPS to mark out all my antennas and land marks on my 
property...

I will probably revisit the DHDL and the VE3DO also.
I keep looking at DXE NCC-2 and thinking that might magically help my 
situation.
Anyone have good stories about the NCC-2?
I have 3 short Beverages and K9AY loop.

Thanks guys 73

Fred KB4QZH


On 1/12/2021 8:42 PM, Grant Saviers wrote:
> The advice we were given from Hi-Z for a new 4 square was not more 
> elevation difference between elements than ~4 feet. ~20% of element 
> length.  The topography that happens between elements, eg spanning a 
> creek, might not matter much given the simple single ground rod ground 
> per element, but haven't tried that.
>
> Since a DHDL is elevated and is not ground connected it could be 
> tilted in a model to see what happens.
>
> Grant KZ1W
>
> On 1/12/2021 13:07, Fred Moeves wrote:
>> Jim,
>> Thank you very much.
>> And I can confirm that even short (300') Beverages work on slopes.
>>
>> I do have one question please will loops like the VE3DO,DHDL and 
>> others work on a slope?
>>
>> 73
>> Fred KB4QZH
>>
>> On 1/12/2021 3:45 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>>> On 1/12/2021 11:14 AM, Fred Moeves wrote:
>>>> The property is on a slope that dumps into a creek then back up 
>>>> another slope.
>>>> I don't think a 4 square would work i these conditions.
>>>>
>>>> I was surprised how well the short Beverages worked out.
>>>
>>> Both I and NI6T, a great engineer and topband op, have Beverages 
>>> over VERY irregular sloped terrain, and they work just fine. Both of 
>>> us are in dense redwood forests, where a 4-square is totally 
>>> impractical. Mine are 500 ft and 550 ft, reversible using DX Eng 
>>> hardware.
>>>
>>> 73, Jim K9YC
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