Topband: 160m DX /40m DX - CW

W3HKK at roadrunner.com W3HKK at roadrunner.com
Fri Apr 22 07:24:45 EDT 2022 

couldnt hear the VK9 this morning but others did.
 No TX5

Heard the TX5 loud and clear on 7010 at 7:15am local

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 1. Re: Poor 160m DX Propagation (Henk Remijn PA5KT)
 2. Re: Poor 160m DX Propagation (David Raymond)
 3. Re: Poor 160m DX Propagation (Jim Brown)
 4. Re: Poor 160m DX Propagation (w5zn at w5zn.org)
 5. Re: Poor 160m DX Propagation (Wes)
 6. Poor 160m DX Propagation (Roger Kennedy)
 7. Re: Poor 160m DX Propagation (Mark Lunday)
 8. Re: Poor 160m DX Propagation (kq2m at kq2m.com)
 9. Re: Poor 160m DX Propagation (Jim Brown)
 10. VK9NT (Jon Zaimes, AA1K)
 11. Re: Poor 160m DX Propagation (Rich Dailey)

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 Message: 1
 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 18:11:38 +0200
 From: Henk Remijn PA5KT 
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 Subject: Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation
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 Op 20-4-2022 om 11:51 schreef Roger Kennedy:
 > Propagation on 160m between this part of Europe and North America
seems to
 > have been really
 > poor for several weeks now . . .
 >
 > RBN reports from across the pond are typically 20dB down on normal
most of
 > the time . . . and hear very few NA stations on the band.
 >
 > Not sure why that is . . .
 >
 > Roger G3YRO
 >
 >
 >
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 Message: 2
 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 12:31:44 -0500
 From: David Raymond 
 To: topband at contesting.com
 Subject: Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation
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 As we've said before, many of us in NA are fighting not just QRN but
 significant attacks from lightning.? There a lot of us that are
 essentially shut down for the season, my self included? (four square
 elements are now grounded and the 8 circle is decommissioned).? I'm
 still QRV somewhat with a 1/4 wave sloping vertical with elevated
 radials but deaf as a post much of the time.

 73. . . Dave, W0FLS

 On 4/20/2022 11:11 AM, Henk Remijn PA5KT via Topband wrote:
 >  
[7]https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/solar-activity/solar-cycle.html
[8]
 /> >
 >
 > Op 20-4-2022 om 11:51 schreef Roger Kennedy:
 >> Propagation on 160m between this part of Europe and North America
 >> seems to
 >> have been really
 >> poor for several weeks now . . .
 >>
 >> RBN reports from across the pond are typically 20dB down on normal
 >> most of
 >> the time . . . and hear very few NA stations on the band.
 >>
 >> Not sure why that is . . .
 >>
 >> Roger G3YRO
 >>
 >>
 >>
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 Message: 3
 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 12:37:30 -0700
 From: Jim Brown 
 To: topband at contesting.com
 Subject: Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation
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 On 4/20/2022 10:31 AM, David Raymond wrote:
 > There a lot of us that are essentially shut down for the season,

 Out here on the west coast, the only time I hear CW on 160 (other
than
 VE6WZ) is during contests. This time of year, my opportunity for DX
is
 to VK/ZL in the morning, but deep into retirement, I don't do
mornings. :)

 73, Jim K9YC

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 Message: 4
 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 13:46:42 -0600
 From: w5zn at w5zn.org
 To: topband at contesting.com
 Subject: Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation
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 The situation here at W5ZN is the same as Dave's. Way too much
lightning
 from now until September to keep all of the 160 meter antennas out
and
 operational.

 73 Joel W5ZN

 On 2022-04-20 11:31, David Raymond wrote:
 > As we've said before, many of us in NA are fighting not just QRN
but
 > significant attacks from lightning.? There a lot of us that are
 > essentially shut down for the season, my self included? (four
square
 > elements are now grounded and the 8 circle is decommissioned).? I'm
 > still QRV somewhat with a 1/4 wave sloping vertical with elevated
 > radials but deaf as a post much of the time.
 >
 > 73. . . Dave, W0FLS
 >
 > On 4/20/2022 11:11 AM, Henk Remijn PA5KT via Topband wrote:
 >>  
[13]https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/solar-activity/solar-cycle.html
[14]
 /> >>
 >>
 >> Op 20-4-2022 om 11:51 schreef Roger Kennedy:
 >>> Propagation on 160m between this part of Europe and North America
 >>> seems to
 >>> have been really
 >>> poor for several weeks now . . .
 >>>
 >>> RBN reports from across the pond are typically 20dB down on
normal
 >>> most of
 >>> the time . . . and hear very few NA stations on the band.
 >>>
 >>> Not sure why that is . . .
 >>>
 >>> Roger G3YRO
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> _________________
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 Message: 5
 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 13:35:14 -0700
 From: Wes 
 To: topband at contesting.com
 Subject: Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation
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 Real DXers still do mornings.? I was up at 4:30 local checking the
band.? We're
 the same age.

 Wes? N7WS

 On 4/20/2022 12:37 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
 > On 4/20/2022 10:31 AM, David Raymond wrote:
 >> There a lot of us that are essentially shut down for the season,
 >
 > Out here on the west coast, the only time I hear CW on 160 (other
than VE6WZ)
 > is during contests. This time of year, my opportunity for DX is to
VK/ZL in
 > the morning, but deep into retirement, I don't do mornings. :)
 >
 > 73, Jim K9YC
 > _________________
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 Message: 6
 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 23:05:27 +0100
 From: "Roger Kennedy" 
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 I get why many of you in North America may not be active at the
moment, if
 there's now a lot of QRN (let alone risk of lightning strikes) . . .

 But are the poor RBN reports lately due to high QRN over there,
rather than
 poor Propagation, do you think? (given that RBN shows signal strength
above
 the Noise, rather than absolute signal strength)

 Roger G3YRO

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 Message: 7
 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:44:05 +0000
 From: Mark Lunday 
 To: Wes , "topband at contesting.com"

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 Wes, for me it?s not the age, but the mileage.

 Mark Lunday
 wd4elg at outlook.com
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 From: Topband  on behalf of Wes 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2022 4:35:14 PM
 To: topband at contesting.com 
 Subject: Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation

 Real DXers still do mornings. I was up at 4:30 local checking the
band. We're
 the same age.

 Wes N7WS

 On 4/20/2022 12:37 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
 > On 4/20/2022 10:31 AM, David Raymond wrote:
 >> There a lot of us that are essentially shut down for the season,
 >
 > Out here on the west coast, the only time I hear CW on 160 (other
than VE6WZ)
 > is during contests. This time of year, my opportunity for DX is to
VK/ZL in
 > the morning, but deep into retirement, I don't do mornings. :)
 >
 > 73, Jim K9YC
 > _________________
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 Message: 8
 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 19:33:49 -0500
 From: kq2m at kq2m.com
 To: Henk Remijn PA5KT 
 Cc: topband at contesting.com
 Subject: Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation
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 Hi Roger,

 I monitor solar weather regularly and over the past 6 weeks there
have
 been lots of C and M class Solar flares with an X class flare thrown
in.
 Between all the flares, CME's and Radio storms there have been very
few
 days when the K index has been below 2 even briefly, which, in
Western
 CT is the propagation equivalent of throwing a wet blanket on a fire.
 Then add in the QRN from Thunder static and rain static plus at least
 FIVE Nor-easters in the past 6 weeks and you have all but eliminated
 most of the good band openings. I realize that the weather related
 storms don't affect propagation but all the qrn that they generate
keeps
 some ops from wanting to turn on the radio to operate 160.

 Perhaps the biggest cause of the reduced signal strength comes from
the
 much higher Solar Flux and SSN numbers that we have been experiencing
as
 cycle 25 ramps up. The higher levels of ionization, daytime
absorption
 and increased MUF are all negatively impacting 160 M openings around
the
 world. This will not improve significantly until the solar numbers
are
 in decline again to low levels, hopefully not for another 5 - 6
years.

 73

 Bob, KQ2M

 On 2022-04-20 11:11, Henk Remijn PA5KT via Topband wrote:
 >  
[27]https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/solar-activity/solar-cycle.html
[28]
 /> >
 >
 > Op 20-4-2022 om 11:51 schreef Roger Kennedy:
 >> Propagation on 160m between this part of Europe and North America
 >> seems to
 >> have been really
 >> poor for several weeks now . . .
 >>
 >> RBN reports from across the pond are typically 20dB down on normal
 >> most of
 >> the time . . . and hear very few NA stations on the band.
 >>
 >> Not sure why that is . . .
 >>
 >> Roger G3YRO
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> _________________
 >> Searchable Archives:  [29]http://www.contesting.com/_topband [30]
- Topband
 >> Reflector
 > _________________
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 Message: 9
 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:49:09 -0700
 From: Jim Brown 
 To: topband at contesting.com
 Subject: Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation
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 On 4/20/2022 1:35 PM, Wes wrote:
 > I was up at 4:30 local checking the band.? We're the same age.

 You and I think very differently about many things. Ham radio is PART
of
 my life. :)

 73, Jim K9YC

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 Message: 10
 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 10:22:37 +0000 (UTC)
 From: "Jon Zaimes, AA1K" 
 To: "topband at contesting.com" 
 Subject: Topband: VK9NT
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 Still life in the band here.
 Worked VK9NT on 1824.5 CW at 1008z today, about 10 minutes before my
sunrise. Conditions were quiet.

 73/Jon
 Jon P. Zaimes, AA1K Tower climber for hire  [33]http://www.aa1k.us/
[34] ?email: jz73 at verizon.net or aa1k at arrl.net

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 Message: 11
 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 08:33:36 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Rich Dailey 
 Cc: topband 
 Subject: Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation
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 Yes, Rotten QRN. Yes, Rotten Lightning bursts. Yes, Solar conditions.
 But many of us are lured away from 160 to 15, 10 and 6. Some of our
ears
 are somewhere else other than 160 when the SF goes up.
 I love the band, but sometimes it's hard to resist the stronger DX,
and
 smaller gain antennae. :-)

 Rich, N8UX

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "David Raymond" 
 To: "topband" 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2022 1:31:44 PM
 Subject: Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation

 As we've said before, many of us in NA are fighting not just QRN but
 significant attacks from lightning.? There a lot of us that are
 essentially shut down for the season, my self included? (four square
 elements are now grounded and the 8 circle is decommissioned).? I'm
 still QRV somewhat with a 1/4 wave sloping vertical with elevated
 radials but deaf as a post much of the time.

 73. . . Dave, W0FLS

 On 4/20/2022 11:11 AM, Henk Remijn PA5KT via Topband wrote:
 >  
[35]https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/solar-activity/solar-cycle.html
[36]
 /> >
 >
 > Op 20-4-2022 om 11:51 schreef Roger Kennedy:
 >> Propagation on 160m between this part of Europe and North America
 >> seems to
 >> have been really
 >> poor for several weeks now . . .
 >>
 >> RBN reports from across the pond are typically 20dB down on normal
 >> most of
 >> the time . . . and hear very few NA stations on the band.
 >>
 >> Not sure why that is . . .
 >>
 >> Roger G3YRO
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> _________________
 >> Searchable Archives:  [37]http://www.contesting.com/_topband [38]
- Topband
 >> Reflector
 > _________________
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