On 12/18/2023 5:35 AM, n4is at comcast.net wrote: > Hi Rob, my city lot backyard is 50x100 and I worked (CW only) 305 > confirmed on 160m from 2006 to 2019 You're in Florida. Rob is in IL. Very different. Most of your path to country-rich EU and SA is over water, and not via the AU oval. Even more different here in W6. 73, Jim K9YC