Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 250, Issue 14
Richard McLachlan
richard at rodsley.net
Mon Oct 23 14:14:14 EDT 2023
I worked 25 NA stations but nothing further West than Ohio. Good sigs very early in the contest from New England. Two of us in the U.K. did hear N6AA for around 10 mins just before our sunrise. There was quite a lot of EU activity but heard absolutely nothing from the Caribbean which is unusual.
Richard G3OQT
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> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 00:14:36 +0300
> From: uy0zg <uy0zg at mksat.net>
> To: Topband <topband at contesting.com>
> Subject: Topband: Stew Perry
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> Hi
>
> The conditions were very bad.
>
> I rested half the night. There was no one to work with...
>
> Just one QSO with Japan.
>
> The only US radio station I heard was W1UE. QSO did not take place.
>
> NP2X - I didn?t have time to warm up the PA. He did QRT.
>
> 8P5A is a good RX. I am very glad. Here's all my news about DX...
>
> Good Contest !
>
> The only pity is that there were few European stations.
> --
> Nick, UY0ZG
> http://www.topband.in.ua
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2023 16:17:13 -0700
> From: TreeN6TR <treen6tr at gmail.com>
> To: 160 <topband at contesting.com>
> Subject: Topband: Remote operation
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> While I hesitate to post this, at some point, this behavior needs to be
> called out for what it is.
>
> Believe it or not - there is a station who has a well established pattern
> of working DX on 160 meters from "California". I use quotes here, because
> this station claims to be in California, or the grid DM04, when they
> actually aren't.
>
> Six land is not that far from my QTH and during the CQ 160 CW contest, I
> was able to record the whole contest while this station worked about 45
> Europeans - many before sunset in W6. With my QTH in Oregon about 1500 km
> away, I would easily be able to hear this station if they were transmitting
> from home.
>
> Contesting gives multipliers for states and when those states are not
> really what you are working, it makes things unfair. I know in the CQ 160
> CW contest - those QSOs were removed and credit not given for the QSO. It
> was indicated in their report file (so those stations know clearly whom I
> am writing about).
>
> Just because someone says they are in one place, you should look for clues
> that maybe something isn't right. If you have any suspicions, please make
> note of them and inform the contest sponsor.
>
> Tree
>
>
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 09:25:52 -0300
> From: "Mike Smith VE9AA" <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
> To: <topband at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: Topband: Remote operation
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> Tree and everyone:
>
>
>
> Sadly, cheating has "always been a thing".(I'd like to think a little "less
> so" in ham radio)_I love this hobby and the great people I've met because of
> it.
>
>
>
> Back in the early 1990's there was a K7 station from the PNW(no, not
> K7RAT,hi) who had some kind of landline remote to my part of the world (we
> never could find out where) and he would work all this EU DX.this was on 6m.
>
>
>
> Fast forward to today and "remotes" are a really common thing now. As
> recently as maybe 1-2 yrs ago I have "worked" Italy on 160m near my sunrise
> with huge signals. If we're doing the math, that's 6 hours after sunrise in
> Rome. Normally I would never-ever remove a QSO from my contest log but when
> I hear rotten stuff like this, I 100% know it's bogus and delete it or just
> not log it.
>
>
>
> We see regular messages from UY0ZG complaining about cheaters and remotes
> but I don't know the solution. I could say to Nick "ignore it" but it
> waters down all the other accomplishments the vast majority of the rest of
> us hard working honest players, DXers, casuals on the bands, make. I've
> been beat by cheaters and it doesn't feel good.
>
>
>
> I know there are guys in Canada who "power cheat" (or operate assisted or
> have a 2nd op) by entering as QRP or LP but are running the full bucket of
> goo.etc.
>
>
>
> So, whether remote, telnet (while claiming SO) or gobs of power, 2nd/3rd op,
> to my mind, there may only be one thing that might work?. Shaming.
> (although I don't think these fellas normally have high moral values)
>
>
>
> It's like I tell folks who I encounter who may hint at a cheat.
>
>
>
> 1-you have to sleep at night
>
> and
>
> 2-you have to look at that face in the mirror in the morning.
>
>
>
> Are you happy with who you see looking back?
>
>
>
> Mike VE9AA
>
> ---------
>
>
>
> While I hesitate to post this, at some point, this behavior needs to be
>
> called out for what it is.
>
>
>
> Believe it or not - there is a station who has a well established pattern
>
> of working DX on 160 meters from "California". I use quotes here, because
>
> this station claims to be in California, or the grid DM04, when they
>
> actually aren't.
>
>
>
> Six land is not that far from my QTH and during the CQ 160 CW contest, I
>
> was able to record the whole contest while this station worked about 45
>
> Europeans - many before sunset in W6. With my QTH in Oregon about 1500 km
>
> away, I would easily be able to hear this station if they were transmitting
>
> from home.
>
>
>
> Contesting gives multipliers for states and when those states are not
>
> really what you are working, it makes things unfair. I know in the CQ 160
>
> CW contest - those QSOs were removed and credit not given for the QSO. It
>
> was indicated in their report file (so those stations know clearly whom I
>
> am writing about).
>
>
>
> Just because someone says they are in one place, you should look for clues
>
> that maybe something isn't right. If you have any suspicions, please make
>
> note of them and inform the contest sponsor.
>
>
>
> Tree
>
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