Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 259, Issue 14
GEORGE WALLNER
aa7jv at atlanticbb.net
Sun Aug 4 18:36:52 EDT 2024
It make it easier if you think of the loading coil as a transformer: the
current is lower on the "top" but the voltage is higher. Power is the same
(minus losses).
73,
George,
AA7JV
On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 15:27:00 -0700 "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" wrote:
>On 8/4/2024 12:25 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>
>>On 7/28/2024 2:03 AM, Tom Boucher wrote:>Sorry Jim K9YC but it is incorrect to say that a loading coil at the base
>>>of an antenna, which is less than a quarter wave, will affect the high
>>>current point of the antenna. Assuming the coil is pure L with no
>>>distributed C, the current exiting the coil will be the same as that
>>>entering it.
>>>
>>This is an Alice in Wonderland statement -- most practical loading coils DO have distributed shunt capacity between turns. And yes, that is the simplifying assumption in the model. But it is part of an antenna, and currents in any antenna are complex, needing both magnitude and phase to describe them. And phase is established by the boundary condition, which is the open end.
>>73, Jim K9YC
>We interrupt Alice for this reality check:
>
>Refer to this URL:
>
>🔗
>https://rioarc.org/Barrys%20Articles.html
><
>https://rioarc.org/Barrys%20Articles.html
>>
>
>Boothe, QEX, 2014. Figure 42, Page 31.
>
>and download the 2 part QEX article on mobile loading coils.
>Near the end of the 2nd part, it shows a mobile loading coil
>with RF ammeters at top and bottom, with the top one indicating
>only 42% of the reading on the bottom one. The article contains
>a lot of test data showing how the current ratio varies
>depending on various parameters like the placement of the coil.
>In all cases, the current out of the top is less than the
>current into the bottom.
>
>Also, IMHO, while there may be some capacitance between the turns, the
>main capacitance of interest is actually the isotropic capacitance
>of the coil to free space, as was established by R. G. Medhurst:
>"H.F. and Self-Capacitance of Single Layer Solenoids." March 1947 Wireless Engineer, page 80ff. See Table V. If capacitance between turns were important, then close wound coils using insulated wire would differ markedly from coils with spaced bare wire. But they don't.
>
>73
>Rick N6RK
>
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