Topband: 160 FT8

[Tree]

Agree that this is getting old.

"Go back and research the transition from AM to SSB.  It’s much the same.  "

But I do disagree with that statement.  You still used your ears with SSB.

Tree N6TR

On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 6:10 PM Cecil acuff <chacuff at gmail.com> wrote:

> FT8 is here to stay….and there will be others!
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> Go back and research the transition from AM to SSB.  It’s much the same.
> Complain as you will….if you cling to CW as the only valid mode of
> communications on Top Band, you will fail.  You are willing to sacrifice
> RTTY to FT8 just recently… in an effort to justify your position….to no
> avail.  Technology moves forward….you stay behind.  All modes are valid and
> there is nothing you can do to halt it.
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> AM, SSB, CW, RTTY, Digital modes including FT8….all valid. Doesn’t matter
> if you used a bug or a laptop…all valid.
>
> Fight about remote ops…a much more productive fight!…..that’s if you must
> fight!
>
> This discussion is getting old….
>
> Cecil
> K5DL
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> Sent from my iPad
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> > On Feb 19, 2024, at 5:46 PM, Bob Kile <midnight18 at cox.net> wrote:
> > The discussion goes on. In case one hasn't noticed we are in a solar
> maximum. I work what I can when I can and get sleep unlike "Charlie Fox".
> >
> > FT8 for me is a tool. If I call CQ for a few minutes on FT8 in 15
> minutes I can see world wide with it's  thousands of stations using PSK
> Reporter the current state of propagation.
> >
> > Last evening after the contest I ran JTDX in SWL mode over night. The so
> called dead band yielded 41 unique call signs in EU. About half would have
> been workable on CW. This was with my antenna stuck beaming 90 degrees
> which normally would be pointing at 25 degrees.
> >
> > In these crap conditions to work new ones you need to pull out all the
> tools such as low noise RX antennas, spectrum and waterfall displays,
> spotting and even FT8. While I'm not an advocate of FT8 it certainly has
> it's place and to work DX it takes some savvy by not just calling CQ and
> having the program auto answer the strongest of the group calling.
> >
> > Dxpeditions these days cost piles of money. Very few can fork out $25K
> of personal funds to go  or attempt to go to some remote piece of dirt in
> the middle of nowhere. They run on donations from clubs, manufacturers,
> retailers and  individuals. The more contacts they make the better chance
> of recouping some of the real costs.
> >
> > I saw in one post a negative comment about Rig in a Box. With all the
> hot air from "Save the World" fanatics it has become extremely difficult to
> permission to operate from many  places  that 20 years ago was possible.
> >
> > As a Ham operator for 58 years now and I go with the flow. I see many
> new faces and at some point they will mature into what what we perceive is
> ham radio if we give them a chance. I prefer not to be the last guy calling
> CQ with a sign posted  "when done please turn off the lights".
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Bob W7RH
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> > W7RH DM35OJ
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> > If it's true that our species is alone in the universe, then I'd have to
> say the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little. George Carlin
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