In Dec, K5PC asked if the choke he uses on his elev radial system was effective enough. There is a simple measurement that can made to evaluate the effectiveness of the countermeasures such as the use of a choke in the feed-line. W7EL, in the ARRL ANT HANDBOOK, writes that the Field Strength, FS, can be written as FS = 10 Log ( K / R ) where K is a constant (for a constant RF power into the ant), and R is the real part of the impedance at the base of the ant. What one finds for a very limited elev radial system is that R increases when ground current is allowed to flow. This causes the current and the field strength to decrease, making the ant less efficient. One can measure the real part of the base impedance without ground current flow(R2), and with ground current flow (R1), and estimate the loss by Change in FS = 10 Log (R1 / R2 ) = ( Change in gain, for EZNEC modeling ) The good news is that as one increases the number of elev radials (symmetrically) the differences between R1 and R2 tends to disappear. At my location I could not detect any differences between R1 and R2 at 6-8 elev 1/4w radials. One may not get the same exact results but the trend should be the same. The reason for the above effect is that the ground current and the elev radial return current has significant phase differences which results in a reduction in the total return current. (due to differences in the vel of propagation). Also the current flowing via ground is more lossy, and the net effect is that for a given excitation the current decreases and thus the value of the real part of the base impedance goes up. ( Pin = I^2 R, current goes down, R goes up) As the number of elev radials is increased the amount of current flowing via the ground connection is reduced while the percent of the total current flowing in the elev radials is increased, resulting in less cancellation. For For those for whom antenna modeling is the all important thing, delta FS = delta Gain = 10 Log R1/R2 models exactly as that. Measurement of the real part of the base impedance with or without ground current flowing is a relatively simple way to evaluate the effects of a somewhat complex phenomena. Rob, W1MK ________________________________________________________________________ FREE Reminder Service - NEW from AmericanGreetings.com Click HERE and never forget a Birthday or Anniversary again! http://track.juno.com/s/lc?s=197335&u=http://www.americangreetings.com/products/online_calendar.pd