Thanks to all that have change my train of thought on erecting my tower. Looks like I'll be calling the ready-mix truck to pour my base. by the way the name and call here is Don (KE4IAP) 73 Don -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/towertalkfaq.html Submissions: towertalk@contesting.com Administrative requests: towertalk-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: K7LXC@contesting.com Sponsored by Akorn Access, Inc & KM9P