donna forget that HyGain sells a three element 40 meter beam called the Discoverer. I have the two element version and am very happy. K4VUD -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/towertalkfaq.html Submissions: towertalk@contesting.com Administrative requests: towertalk-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-towertalk@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com/km9p/search