Re[2]: [TowerTalk] Mosley antennas - Warning: Strong Languag

Fri, 13 Feb 98 14:57:24 EST

     First, thanks for taking the time and having the courage to set up and 
     run the tests.  Antennas are a real sacred cow for most Hams.  If you 
     have the time take a close look at the testing of   VHF/UHF antennas 
     at the Midwest, Southern and of conferences.  A given antenna will 
     have different results at different conferences.  Take the time to 
     write to K1FO or WB0TEM and ask them about REAL world antenna 
     performances measured with GOOD test equipment.

     Please check your emotions at the door and take the time to listen and 
     learn what Steve is trying to tell us.  We can all get a education 
     from this, if we try to!

     Paul

     WG0G/W2

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Mosley antennas - Warning: Strong Language
Author:  K7LXC@aol.com at smtplink-rammob
Date:    2/13/98 2:08 PM

In a message dated 98-02-12 19:45:40 EST, k4ro@k4ro.net writes:

> For one real world data point, and not just marketing hype,
>  consider the recent ARRL 10m scores between W9WI and myself.  
>  He has a 1 year old Force 12 C3 at 70' (I hung it for him.)  
>  I have a 7 year old PRO57A at 100'.  Our 10m mixed mode scores 
>  were very close, and he is a superior operator by far.

     The height difference of 30 feet on ten meters is significant. Our test
of the C-3 shows that it has 2-2.5 dBd gain on 10M. All your comments show is 
that at THAT time, on THAT band your results were similar. It's not a valid 
evaluation of either antenna's performance.
>  
>  I could cite other real world examples of local comparisons 
>  with other contesters in the area.  The bottom line is that my
>  20/15/10 meter scores are comparable with the TH-7/C3/Quad users 
>  in the area.  The ARRL 10m contest is the first example that came 
>  to mind, and includes one of the latest "vastly superior" antenna 
>  designs.  Plus, in Doug's case, we're comparing his new C3 antenna 
>  installation, with new connectors, feedline, etc., to my 7 year 
>  old Mosley installation. 
>  
     Well, it's these anecdotal observations that we're trying to get away
from. They're not valid. Until you have data obtained from a standardized, 
repeatable test - it don't mean a thing. That's why we are going to all this 
work so that we can present some REAL on-the-air data.

73,  Steve  K7LXC

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