[TowerTalk] Re: Guying question

[Fred Roberts]

Boy, it sure doesn't take much to get a thread going, does it?

Brings to mind a "Los Angeles commuting discussion" we had on the local
repeater several years ago.  Seems I said something like, "I am going
about 63 mph."  The fellow I was addressing was an Editor for the Los
Angeles Times, and he said, "You should have said, 'I am going 63 mph'.
If you want to use "about', then you should say. "I am going about 60
mph."
And, of course, I responded in support of my original statement being
correct.

Well, this discussion lasted for the entire rush hour commute which was
about an hour and a half.  Its primary value was that it allowed us to
avoid thinking about all of the traffic in which we were both immersed.

But speaking of a "thread" ... the next evening when I got in my car to
go home, I turned the 2M rig on and the first words I heard were, "Well
if you use 'about' it means ....."  Does that sound like a thread to
you?  It sure does to me.

I surely thought all the TV ads expressing the thought "Wider is better"
said it all.

73-
Fred Roberts, W6TKV
Threadless in Riverside


Tom H wrote:

> Fred,
>
> I have to disagree with your statement below.  Force doesn't change as
> the
> guy anchor is moved closer to the tower.  The direction of the force
> changes.  At a guy angle of 45 degrees  the force is 50/50 in the
> horizontal
> and vertical planes.  As the angle becomes smaller (closer to the
> tower) the
> vertical force increases, while the horizontal force decreases.
> There's no
> magic at work here!  If you could attach a scale at the guy anchor,
> you'd
> get the same readings at 1 foot from the tower as you would 100 feet
> from
> the tower.  When most of the force is in the vertical plane, the earth
>
> holding the "dead man" may give up the ghost quicker than when a
> horizontal
> component is in the mix.
>
> 7 3,
> Tom K3GM
>
> >
> >Tom-
> >
> >Like the ad says, "Wider is better".  The figures quoted might better
> be
> >defined as the "minimum recommended.  My guess is that most people
> would
> >like to have the anchors closer to the tower, if that were
> acceptable,
> >since they could have a bigger tower with more antennas on a smaller
> >footprint.
> >
> >Think of the tower as a lever arm pulling on the anchor.  The closer
> the
> >anchor is to the base, the less force on the tower it would take to
> pull
> >the anchor free.
> >
> >73-
> >Fred Roberts, W6TKV
> >Riverside, CA
> >
>
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