Thanks all. As usual, good practical info. If beer bottle caps would only work, I would have a lifetime plus supply, 73 Jan W5KNZ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/towertalkfaq.html Submissions: towertalk@contesting.com Administrative requests: towertalk-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-towertalk@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com/km9p/search.htm