Steve: Your son is absolutely correct bout' # 2! Of course, the first thing to go is your quad in an ice storm! Val W5PUT -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/towertalkfaq.html Submissions: towertalk@contesting.com Administrative requests: towertalk-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-towertalk@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com/km9p/search.htm