The 80 meter dipole works surprisingly well on 17 and 12 meters as well, on the 5th and 7th harmonics. 73 de k5gw -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/towertalkfaq.html Submissions: towertalk@contesting.com Administrative requests: towertalk-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-towertalk@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com/km9p/search.htm