[TowerTalk] Sidemount yagis
K7LXC@aol.com
K7LXC@aol.com
Wed, 5 Apr 2000 12:50:15 EDT
In a message dated 04/05/2000 1:31:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
K7NV@contesting.com writes:
> An important thing to note about the example cited here is that the
> guinea pig was a catalogue Rohn configuration meant to have the entire
> antenna load at the top. The guy cables on that tower are sized for a
> concentrated top load. Placing part of the rated antenna area at a
> lower
> location resulted in the cable near the low antenna elongating more,
> and
> the upper one less. This caused the loaded tower to get out of column,
> and close to the same limiting base stress was created. There is
> another
> example that shows that increasing cable sizes fixed the problem and
> left some room to increase the loads and hence the antenna areas, to
> arrive at a total that is more than the original.
>
> Remember, this is just what happened with this tower and these changes.
> other initial configurations may behave differently.
>
> The one example just showed why the tower dudes said to use the same
> total area regardless of placement. They sure know that they don't know
> what the user is gonna do about changing guy sizes, so their statement
> is safe and correct.
>
> There is a limited range of optimum solutions for every configuration,
> so we've got to be careful about forming broadly generalized
> conclusions.
Another "important thing to note" is that the Rohn drawings (and
calculations leading to those drawings) just represent ONE scenario. Guys can
be at different ratios than 80%, guy wires can be bigger, antenna loads can
be distributed all over the tower, you can install 3-foot off-axis
sidemounts, elevated guy anchors, etc. It's just that additional calculations
will have to be done for any other configuration. That's why when you ask an
engineer a question, he'll most likely say that "It depends".
The abuse that 45G in particular will take is well documented. How far
over or close to the 'edge of reliability (sanity?)' these installations are
probably hasn't been calc'ed (maybe you don't WANT to know - hi). That's why
you see recommendations from TowerTalkians to seek real engineering and
PE-type help when you're contemplating doing something 'different'.
"Hip-pocket" engineering is totally discouraged.
Cheers, Steve K7LXC
Tower Tech
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