[TowerTalk] Questions on tower guying, brackets, etc.
n4kg@juno.com
n4kg@juno.com
Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:53:19 -0600
N4KG responses intersperced below. Caution:
Examples are a violation of the K7LXC "prime directive".
On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 Nat Davis <ndavis@vt.edu> writes:
>
> I want to add another tower section to bring the overall tower
> height to 40'. I can not go any higher than 40' on my small
> house lot without violating zoning setback requirements...
> With a modest mast, my antenna (hoping to upgrade to a
> Force 12 C3S or C4S) will be some 45' off the ground.
Good choice. 40 to 50 ft works VERY WELL on
the high bands, especially during daytime and
high sunspot activity. N4KG
> After reviewing the self-supporting and bracketed tower
> information in the Rohn catalog, I feel that I must add
> guy wires to the top of the tower -- 25' of tower above
> the bracket is just a little wobbly for my taste and
> antenna wind load (am in a county rated at 70 MPH).
> Here is where I need your collective opinions:
Yep, one set of guys on a 40 ft tower is
highly recommended. N4KG
>
> 1. In the past, Rohn has described attaching guy wires
> directly to/around tower legs at the cross bracing joints.
> Rohn has dropped this method from their current catalog,
> however. The ARRL antenna book still shows this as
> a way to attach guys. For my tower size and configuration,
> would this work OK or should I spend the $$ and use the
> guy bracket assembly?
NO Problem (IMHO). As I have previously reported,
the guys on my 130 ft R35 tower are connected to
the tower legs by looping the guy grips through the
corners of the Z braces, around the tower legs.
The top set of guys (1/4 inch) held up two trees
which fell on them during a small tornado. NO
damage to the tower. N4KG
> 2. Guy anchors: I would prefer to use screw-in anchors
> (vs. buried concrete anchors) and I have seen lots of discussion
> on them (pro and con) in the archives. The "stock" Rohn anchors
> seem too weak with their 2,500 pound pullout rating. From the
> AB Chance product line, I was considering their model 6346 --
> 66" long with 6" screw and galvanized. It has a pullout rating
> of 4,500 pounds -- more than the breaking strength of the
> 3/16 EHS. These anchors are a little more than 2x the price of the
> model 604s that are only 48" long, do not appear to be galvanized,
> and have a pullout rating of 4,000 pounds. Does anyone have
> experience with either model or can suggest others?
>Are the 6346s overkill? Would the 604s be OK
> for my installation? If they are not galvanized, should I be
> worried about them "rusting away to nothing" over time?
My short towers are guyed to 4 ft anchors with 4 inch
plates. Both survived estimated 90 mph winds from
a small tornado. This includes a 40 ft tower with TH7
and a 55 ft tower with 5L10's at 62 / 32 ft and 4L15 at
55 ft. GALVANIZED is definitely to be preferred.
A 6 inch plate is a bonus. N4KG
>
> 3. Just looked at my ruler and 3/16" diameter cable looks
> darned small !!!!! :-)
Rated strength for 3/16 inch EHS is 4000 lbs.
Rated strength for 3/16 inch HS is 2500 lbs.
The horizontal force of an 86.6 MPH wind is 30 lbs/sq.ft.
A 10 sq ft antenna would present a 300 lb load to the top
of the tower. This force must be offset by the horizontal
component of the guy wire tension. For guy spacing of
only 50%, the guy tension will be 2X the horizontal load
or 600 lbs., well UNDER the rated strength of any 3/16
inch cable. I have used 1/8 inch guys on short towers
in the past but they rust out in 10 years. GOOD 3/16
inch cable should last at least 20 years. (Purists will
want to add 30 psf times 2 sq ft / 10 ft tower section
spread over the top guy and bracket).
Bottom Line: IMHO, a single set of 3/16 inch galvanized
guy wires attached to a 4 ft screw anchor will make a
VERY SAFE and secure 40 ft. installation that should
last for several decades. N4KG
>
> Thanks for any suggestions you can give me.
>
> Nat Davis
> N4EL
>
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