[TowerTalk] Heliax, Lmr, Bury-Flex Info & Conduit Pull Thrus

DavisRFinc@aol.com DavisRFinc@aol.com
Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:54:04 EST



Hi Tom,  

 Andrews spec's this cable at a 5" bend radius.  If the "sweep" you mention 
is good for this 5", which I doubt if it was not "overly" constructed with 
sweep joints,  you will be exceeding that 5" min. spec which is not good.   
One problem with Heliax is that it requires greater bend radius than other 
cables of equal performance (some others are not as good attenuation at 
microwave though).  

The plus side of Heliax is its mechanical strength particularly as related to 
its tensile and elongation ratings.  This lends itself well to hoisting up 
large commercial towers.  

For ham use below 440 MHz, I have to be frank and say that the extra 
mechanical ruggedness of Heliax is not necessary and the attenuation 
improvement vs. LMR or "BURY-FLEX" Tm is minimal at best (unless we're talkin 
very low power at above 230- MHz).  The premium you pay for the Andrew name 
and the extra mechanicals (not to mention connector expense) is considerable. 
 You also deal with higher bend radius as noted.

The 4 bends you mention are no problem if  IAW the 5" spec.

Direct burial is not a problem, another plus of the mechanical construction.  
Not only is the PE (polyethylene) outer jacket a must, the shield below it is 
a copper conduit, thus "vapor transfer" of moisture is inhibited.   Also, 
this conduit type construction lends itself to protection of the inner 
dielectric and center conductor ref. possible vulnerability to an errant 
sharp spade shovel, etc. as your wife or significant other is in the "red 
zone" trying to plant flowers or whatever.
  
So, without further data, which I'd be glad to go over with  you in a direct 
email, I'd say,  "If no 5" min radius, direct bury it.  If you have a muscle 
bound "significant other" who likes digging holes, put it in a conduit and 
find her a field she's safe in.
 
I sell all three of the above mentioned cables and connectors at the lowest 
pricing I'm aware of so it doesn't matter to me. However, I will ask any 
customer what the application is and advise as noted above.   That's only 
ethical.

By the way,  the idea of vacuum suction of a string thru PVC is a good one.  
Just don't do what a guy did:   Make sure if you use light weight yarn, that 
the other end isn't attached to a SIP (sweater in progress).  Turned that 
sweater into a neat "tank top" in 2 seconds.   Cheers,  Steve Davis, K1PEK   
DAVIS RF Co.
note:  comparison to lmr 600, .590" OD, not lmr500, .500".  price comparison: 
4-50A: 1.79/ft vs. $1.13 dir. bury lmr600db (or .98/ft std.)  LDF 4 atten. @ 
450 MHz=.21 dB nom. improvement; @ 30 MHz=.16 dB (100')  
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