[TowerTalk] Re: I'll bite, how does it work

[Al Williams]

Check out this soil type!

I can push an 10' copper pipe (1/2") all the way down by hand!  It doesnt
come back up that easily though.

It was an interesting experience being on this grass covered muck during the
last earthquake.

However, I gave up trying to hammer a ground rod by the shack after about 2
feet!

k7puc


-----Original Message-----
From: Curtis, David B <david.b.curtis@intel.com>
To: K0FF <K0FF@ARRL.NET>; Tower Talk (mail list) <towertalk@contesting.com>
Date: Friday, May 12, 2000 9:07 AM
Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] Re: I'll bite, how does it work


>
>Well, having lived in various places with different soil types, all I can
>say is "your mileage may vary".
>
>South East Minnesota clay/loam -- this trick kinda works. The clay doesn't
>soak in enough water to get soft enough. But it does help considerably.
>
>East Central Minnesota sugar-sand -- this trick is over kill. Three whack
>with a 8 pound sledge and an 8 footer is home.
>
>Silicon Valley -- they don't call the soil "Adobe" for nothin'.  Gardeners
>here *own*, not *rent* jack hammers.
>
>Sierra foothills -- granite. 'nuff said.
>
>73, Dave N6NZ
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: K0FF [mailto:K0FF@ARRL.NET]
>Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 3:46 PM
>To: Tower Talk (mail list); Msptower@aol.com
>Subject: [TowerTalk] Re: I'll bite, how does it work
>
>
>
>Well first the typo said the rod is 5/6, of course that should read 5/8.
>
>RE groundrod installation with no hammer etc.
>
>Take a spoon and dig a little hole about the size of a beer can, and about
>half as deep. pour maybe 1/2 cup of water in it. Pick up the groundrod and
>with the pointy end down, using only it's own weight, stick it into the
>hole. When it hits bottom it will go in a few inches or so. Immediately
pull
>it back out again, and watch the water go down into the little hole the rod
>just made. As soon as it fills up, stick it in the hole again. It's the
>water that extends the hole, not the metal rod. Keep this up for a few
>minutes, and keep the hole supplied with water. Towards the end, you'll be
>pulling the rod out 7 feet and more, with almost zero effort.
>The darned method even breaks up those little pebbles that you invariably
>hit. The only trick is to don't force it, just pull it out again right
away,
>and keep everything wet.
>
>I know no-one will believe this unless he's seen it done.
>
>You'll note that electrician types like to use familiar reference when
>giving measurements: beer cans, hammer handles etc.
>Also most electricians don't have to fill the beer can up with water the
>second time. Assuming they drank the beer at lunch.....and no one is
>looking.
>K0FF
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Msptower@aol.com <Msptower@aol.com>
>To: K0FF@arrl.net <K0FF@arrl.net>
>Date: Thursday, May 11, 2000 6:06 PM
>Subject: I'll bite, how does it work
>
>
>>Unless you've actually seen one installed by an electrician, using a beer
>can
>>full of water, and his bare hands, you simply won't believe it. The real
>>thing- 8' by 5/6, copper over steel. No hammers,nothing but a little
water,
>>and his two hands, and won't even break a sweat.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Theron
>>
>
>
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