[Fwd: Fw: [TowerTalk] Cost of a medium big station?]

Stan or Patricia Griffiths w7ni@teleport.com
Mon, 22 May 2000 02:22:45 -0700




Stan or Patricia Griffiths wrote:

> I think you have to keep this whole thing in perspective.  If the owner was Bill
> Gates would you feel the same way?  You have no way of knowing this guy's total
> net worth.  Maybe his wife's shoe budget is larger than this . . .  You can't
> take it with you and if this guy has it, he should be entitled to spend it any
> way he wants . . . and without criticsm from others who, apparently, don't have
> it . . .
>
> On the other hand, I have known guys with very modest amounts of equipment they
> had NO BUSINESS owning . . . since their kids went without adequate, clothes,
> food, and medical care.  Gotta keep it in perspective . . .
>
> Stan  w7ni@teleport.com
>
> Robert Shohet wrote:
>
> > What an unbelievable waste of money!  No wonder the ham divorce rate is so
> > high.  In life it is important to keep your priorities straight (family
> > first!) and things in perspective but unfortunately not everyone does that.
> >
> > Bob KQ2M
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: K0FF <K0FF@ARRL.NET>
> > To: vhf@w6yx <vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu>; Tower Talk (mail list)
> > <towertalk@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 1:41 PM
> > Subject: [TowerTalk] Cost of a medium big station?
> >
> > >
> > > Here is a rundown of the $$ for a medium big Midwest station. (7 Towers, 7
> > > Beverages),
> > > with a VHF/UHF emphasis.
> > > *   denoted homebrew
> > > ** denotes items purchased used.
> > >
> > > Antennas:
> > > Hygain 5 el 20            500
> > > Hygain 5 el 15            500
> > > Hygain 5 el 10            450
> > > Mosley Pro 57            600
> > > CC 6M Boomers (4) 1476
> > > CC 2M Boomers(8)  1760
> > > CC 230WB                   250**
> > > M2 2M-17el (5)            999
> > > M2 6M 7 el                    290
> > > M2 6M 11 el                530
> > > M2 432 13WL             230
> > > M2 222  7WL               300
> > > M2 1296                       100
> > > R7000                           380
> > > R5                                 100*
> > > HF2V                             239
> > > Create LP                      300
> > > s.s Discone (VHF)         50
> > > Hustler discone               50
> > > Diamond 2/440 repeater ant  240
> > > Mosley el 40                900**
> > >
> > > For the trailer tower:
> > > Mosley TA33                100**
> > > ATAS 100                      200
> > > BJ screwdriver              100**
> > > Hustlers w/ coils            200 **
> > > 6M 3 el                            00*
> > > 6M 5 el                            00*
> > > 6M 7 el                            00*
> > > 222 10 el                        00*
> > > 430 10 el                        00*
> > >
> > > Antennas total  ............................................10,644
> > >
> > > Towers
> > > 100' SSV 8-1/2' base    2000**
> > > 10x10 air-conditioned transmitter building  free
> > > professional delivery installation of above incl... underground
> > electricity
> > > and 39 yds concrete,
> > > and removing the old 185' microwave tower ............ 16,000
> > >
> > > 89' US Tower, work platform, chrome molly mast, coax arms
> > > bearing, lifting fixture, raising fixture, SP for HDR300,
> > > plus 56' US tower, motor,bearing, reinforced mast, coax arms and shipping
> > > for both
> > > 15,000
> > >
> > > Triex 56' crankup    400**
> > >
> > > Triex 72' Motorized crankup   1000**
> > >
> > > HDX 56        50**
> > >
> > > Heights 48  100**
> > >
> > > Wilson 40' tubular 200**
> > >
> > > Concrete, backhoe, labor to install towers        2500?
> > >
> > > 33' Triex trailer tower w/ 4K generator,
> > > solar panels, batteries, inverters     1500**
> > >
> > > 20' 55G w/ (2) 3" bearings, 2 rotor plates, 3" mast    700
> > >
> > > Total for towers       .............................................
> > 39,150
> > >
> > > Rotors HDR300        300**
> > > Tailtwister(2)            1000
> > > Ham4    (2)                 800
> > > M2 2800 (2)              2860
> > > M2 M3000 (2)           2000
> > > hd73 (2)                       300
> > > CDE 45 (2)                 100**
> > > Pelco AZ EL              1500
> > >
> > > Total for rotors  ..................................................8,860
> > >
> > > Rigs:
> > > FT1000D (HF sta.)       3000**
> > > IC756       (6M sta.)       2000
> > > FT 847    (2M EME)      1600
> > > FT736     (222+1296 sta.) 2500
> > > FMs + HTs                        1000
> > > MFJ 9420                            150
> > > ATV gear                                600
> > > TUBE RIGS (nostalgia sta):  2000**??
> > > 75S3C / xtal pack
> > > 32S3 / DX eng
> > > Dentron 160 xvtr
> > > Viking II
> > > Mosley CM1
> > > Utica 650
> > >
> > > Rigs Total
> > > .................................................................
> > > 12,850
> > >
> > > AMPS
> > >
> > > HF (Henry)           6000
> > > 6M    (Henry)        3000
> > > 2M  (Henry)          3000
> > > SB221                   400**
> > > LK1000                  200**
> > > Bricks for vhf+UHF 1500
> > >
> > > AMPs total  ...................................................
> > 14,100
> > >
> > > Accessories:
> > > Bird W/M (6)        600
> > > 12 slugs                600
> > > Kam                        200
> > > Drake 7000 rtty     300**
> > > HP Pentium II        2000
> > > HP Laser printer  1400
> > > Atomic clock           200
> > > SSB 2m preamps (2) 440
> > > Polypahser panel    500
> > > Ant analyzer, grid dippers, sig gens, voltmeters, other test equip 1000
> > > Auto notch filter       150
> > > Voice keyers (2)      300
> > > tuners                         350
> > >
> > > Accy total
> > ...............................................................
> > > 8,050
> > >
> > > Coax, control wire, control boxes:
> > > 350' 1-5/8 run from op. position to TX shack at 100' tower. 3000
> > > 225' 1-1/4 run from op pos to 89' tower (new w/ new connectors) 1200
> > > 6 100' runs 7/8"        600
> > > 6 100' runs 1/2"        300
> > > 1000' RG389                  500
> > > 3000't 75Ohm Triax    2850
> > > 3000' RG 213               300
> > > LMR 400 phasing lines        500
> > > Power splitters                       500
> > > 5KW relay boxes (3)              300*
> > > Bev hub box                            100*
> > > innumerable coaxial fittings + adapters, ground rods, ground strapping..
> > ??
> > > 1000's ft multiconductor control wire.
> > > 10,000's ft 18ga. wire for radials + Beverages.
> > > Total coax
> > > etc............................................................10,000+
> > >
> > > Project
> > > total............................................................100,000+
> > >
> > >
> > > #price does not reflect the cost of the 1000' of riverbluff top for
> > siting,
> > > road cutting, trenching for electric, tree removal,  etc.
> > >
> > > This fellow wishes to remain anonymous. He's already over budget, his wife
> > > may see this. She thinks he's finished already.
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> > >
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