[TowerTalk] Cellular sites

[Ron]

I spoke to the engineering section. They ABSOLUTELY VETOED putting any of MY
antennas on their tower. Not a big deal since their tower would be located
over 1,100 ft from my shack. Typical rents run from $750 to $1,500 per month
PLUS twice the annual lease rate for ag land. I am located in a rural area
with no tower restrictions. Engineer told me they like to deal with ham
operators. I AM precluded from running more than 100 watts on 70CM band.

All this assumes the deal goes through.

Engineer also told me that ground conductivity is measured at 50MHz.

He also told me that they would install a hard-surface road to the site,
which would be located near the back corner of my property, about as far as
possible from my house and shack. The lease would run for 35 years. They
also include a clause about interference station to my equipment. Having my
attorney look everything over. Lease is payable annually. Looks like a quick
way to pay the mortage.

Many thanks to all who replied to my questions.

Ron, KA9ALC

----- Original Message -----
From: <z.pitman@libertel.nl>
To: <majrabsr@rconnect.com>; <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: 26 May, 2000 05:10 AM
Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] Cellular sites


> Hi Ron,
>
> I don't know your particular siutuation (Rural, suburbian, semi-urban,
> urban) and the importance of of your location (overlooking an area or a
road
> segment, are there similar locations available e.g. your neighbour with
> similar possibilities, etc) so it is very difficult to give you exact
> advice. I've been involved in planning some hundreds of cell-sites for
> different cellular operators in Europe and Asia for frequencies, 450, 900,
> 1800 and 1900 MHz bands.
>
> > I was approached by a company looking for a place to situate
> > a cellular
> > phone antenna site. Upon receiving my permission, they ran a
> > lot of tests on
> > various areas of my land, including soil conductivity tests.
>
> This is quite surprising for me. On the frequencies their system might be
> using soil conductivity does not make too much sense. Besides, I assume
they
> measured it on DC or near-DC so this data will be pretty useless on RF.
>
> > I asked if they would allow me to
> > put antennas on the tower.
>
> It's something what cell planners don't like to do because it can limit
the
> future expansions because the other antennas take up tower space and
> introduce wind load. Wind load is important if they use microwave links
and
> the tower twisting and bending can be critical. Unless the location is a
> very strategical, cellular companies wouldn't share with others.
>
> > Crew foreman said that was something to take up
> > with the engineering section.
>
> Sounds bad...
>
> There are two options: 1, They go for a sectorized site with side- or
> armmounted panel antennas. In this case you might use the top of the
tower.
> You have to be careful with: windload of your antenna system and
> installation. They should be careful with: falling ice, jumper cables of
the
> rotating antenna.
>
> 2, If they go for omnis (usually it happens in VERY rural areas} they will
> most likely reserve the top of the tower. In this case you might use their
> tower for sidemounted antennas or as support for wire antennas.
>
> What you can gain besides having a tower in your backyard: attractive
rental
> fee, they are very good at getting permissions for towers so you might get
a
> precedence case for your town or county, which might help you in latter
> applications, these companies use the services of PE-bureaus and their
> findings for your local circumstances (soil mechanics for example) could
be
> very useful for you, and finally they're excellent sources of 7/8" cable
;-)
>
>
> There's a strong legal aspect in every tower sharing deal. Check the
> fineprint and the safety and liability regulations before you sign
anything.
>
> I hope it's helpful. If I can help you with any specific info, feel free
to
> ask.
>
> 73 de Zoli HA1AG
>



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