Hi Guys, The 1/4 radials that I was asking about are ELEVATED radials for an Inverted L, not radials lain on the ground. I didn't explain this. 73 Bob KQ2M -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/towertalk Submissions: towertalk@contesting.com Administrative requests: towertalk-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-towertalk@contesting.com