[TowerTalk] Ginpole for 20 foot sections

[Stan or Patricia Griffiths]

NO, NO, NO . . . DON'T THINK ABOUT IT.   MEASURE IT YOURSELF AND YOU WILL SEE THAT JIM IS
EXACTLY RIGHT.

If you think I am shouting, you're right.  Being polite and subtle doesn't seem to work . .
.

Obviously, you are a non-believer who has NOT made the measuremnts . . .

Stan
w7ni@easystreet.com

Jim wrote:

> Dave,
>
> I'm not buying that.  It sounds logical at first but think about it.  To pull 300 lbs
> up, it takes 300 lbs of pull, and since the upper pulley arrangement is actually going
> to be located on the gin pole, guess what?  The 300 lbs of pull is going right into the
> gin pole.  Sorry if I'm not real clear but I know what I mean!  HiHi.
>
> 73
> Jim WB6YAW
>
> David Robbins wrote:
>
> > of course the lifting rope load remains the same, but the force required on the
> > pulling end decreases so the total load on the gin pole does get reduced.
> >
> > for example, with a standard gin pole lifting 300lbs at the top of the pole you
> > have a 300lb load plus 300lb of pull from the other side giving you a worst case
> > 600lb force on the gin pole (static load, some more is required to get things
> > moving, overcome friction, etc).
> >
> > with a 3:1 advantage pulley system you still have the 300lb load on one side,
> > but the rope pulling down on the other side is only adding 100lbs of force to
> > the pole, so the total is now 400lb.  which of course is a 1/3 reduction from
> > the 600lb you started with.... note the 3:1 and the 1/3 reduction is just how it
> > works out. with a 2:1 advantage you only reduce the total load from 600 to
> > 450lbs of a reduction of only 1/4 of the load... and taken to extreme, with an
> > infinite mechanical advantage you still have 300lbs of load so you only reduce
> > the total load on the pole by 1/2, the lowest you can get.
> >
> > another advantage of a pulley system like that is you can use a lighter weight
> > rope since each pass of it between the pulleys divides the load up.  so for a
> > 3:1 system with a 300lb load you only need a rope that can handle 100lb of
> > tension instead of 300lb... but of course you have to pull 3x more of it to lift
> > the same distance.
> >
> > K7LXC@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > In a message dated 6/12/01 11:45:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > > w7ni@easystreet.com writes:
> > >
> > > >  A 3:1 mechanical advantage block and tackle system does, indeed, relieve
> > > >  about 1/3 of the load on the gin pole, in addition to reducing the number
> > > of
> > > > bodies required on  the pull rope.
> > >
> > >     You sure? Isn't a hundred-pound load going to weigh 100 pounds no matter
> > > how the block and tackle are set up? The load effort on the end of the rope
> > > will be reduced but the dead weight of the load stays the same. You still
> > > need a suitable ginpole.
> > >
> >
> > --
> > David Robbins K1TTT
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