A Google search reveals loads of web based information on knots. Here are but a couple of them http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/knotlink.htm#general http://www.realknots.com/ .. sylvan ԿԬ ---------------- Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX Saskatoon, SK "A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx