[Towertalk] Re: [Towertalk] Quad vs Yagi

[Sibilja Mirko]

Hi Steve,

as far as I can recall, N2AA had always outstanding signal in SE Europe and
was usually the first one of "over the pond" stations we heard and worked.
Especially it's true for low bands. Other really #big# signals I still
recall were VO1MP (low bands) and K4PQL (40).

Of course, above has nothing common with current quad vs yagis discussion.

In those times, at YU1EXY we used single el. 15m loop as receiving antenna
to dig out signals, covered by rain statics.  OTOH, our 80m 3 el wire yagi
totally outperformed  two phased delta loops.  Maybe deltas (with vertical
side parallel to the building, another side parallel to the ground about 20
m above it and third one sloping) were too close to the building. The same,
at S50D, F12 MAG340 outperforms 2 el delta loop for 40 (appex at 20m), so
finally we removed deltas...

73 de Mirko, S57AD
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Katz <stevek@jmr.com>
To: 'Sibilja Mirko' <s57ad@amis.net>; Michael Tope <W4EF@dellroy.com>;
<K3BU@aol.com>; <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 7:52 PM
Subject: RE: [Towertalk] Re: [Towertalk] Quad vs Yagi


> Mirko,
>
> At the same time, if you recall, how loud was N2AA?  Even farther
(hundreds
> of miles) to the south, but still in the northeastern U.S., relatively
> speaking.
>
> WB2WIK/6
>
> "If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." -
> Mario Andretti
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sibilja Mirko [SMTP:s57ad@amis.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:49 AM
> > To: Michael Tope; K3BU@aol.com; towertalk@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [Towertalk] Re: [Towertalk] Quad vs Yagi
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I agree with Mike that you can't compare antenna performance with a
> > station
> > who  is hundreds of miles away, but, OTOH, I still remember (in those
> > times
> > I was member of YU1EXY crew) how loud VE3BMV was on 15 comparing with
> > another VE signals #and# US big guns...
> >
> > Mirko, S57AD
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Michael Tope <W4EF@dellroy.com>
> > To: <K3BU@aol.com>; <towertalk@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 5:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Towertalk] Re: [Towertalk] Quad vs Yagi
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > My Razors outperformed stacked arrays at old W2PV, proof in contest
> > > results
> > > > and many times hearing pileups of Eu stations that W2PV was not
> > responding
> > > to.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yuri, I am curious. Have you ever compared your single band scores
with
> > the
> > > equivalent W2PV band scores with and without all of those 2 point W's
> > > removed
> > > from your score? Did you ever go head to head with W2PV in the ARRL DX
> > > contest where VE's don't get points for W's.
> > >
> > > Also, do you think its fair to compare antenna performance with a
> > station
> > > who
> > > is hundreds of miles away? I often hear W6KP in Anza running euro's on
> > 15
> > > meters
> > > that I can't hear at W6UE in Pasadena. We are both using computer
> > optimized
> > > long
> > > boom monoband yagis. What does that prove? It proves that W6KP is in a
> > quiet
> > > mountain top location and further south from me. Does it prove his
> > antenna
> > > is
> > > "better" than mine? I hardly think so.
> > >
> > > 73 de Mike,
> > W4EF.........................................................
> > >
> > >
> > >
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