Rocks work great. Wrap two or three pieces of antenna wire around one and twist together. Tie your rope to the wire. They come in an infinite number of weights and shapes to fit your needs. They weather very slowly. Best of all, they are available nearly everywhere for free. -- Jimmy Weierich, K2LV, ex KG2AU <kg2au@stny.rr.com> Vestal, NY USA FN12xa