>I used to scare the birds off when I just clicked the brake on and off on my > tailtwister. It also help to bang on the tower with a hammer. It scares the > hell out of them....at least Florida birds. Must be more poilte than their Northern neighbors. Pigeons - now THAT is a pest! Virtually unafraid of anything with an attitude! You can't get rid of them either. 73 Bob KQ2M