[TowerTalk] ARRL and LOTW

Thu Aug 14 15:26:12 EDT 2003

ARRL now charges for DXCC credits.  LOTW will continue this policy.  They're
recouping expenses.   I don't know if the fees will be more or not..

Gil, W1RG
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RICHARD BOYD" <ke3q at msn.com>
To: <CGooden at insightbb.com>; <k4oj at tampabay.rr.com>; "ted demopoulos"
<kr1g at hotmail.com>
Cc: <towertalk at contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] ARRL and LOTW

Unless I misunderstood, ARRL has announced they -will- charge for LOTW
credits, though the fee will be nominal, they say.
Maybe I should go back and read the transcript of N7NG's LOTW discussion at
Dayton -- available by e-mail for $2 from
Rich Boyd, 18601 Queen Anne Bridge Road, Mitchellville, MD  20716.

I do have a financial interest in this product.  73 - Rich, KE3Q
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ted demopoulos
  To: CGooden at insightbb.com ; k4oj at tampabay.rr.com
  Cc: towertalk at contesting.com
  Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] ARRL and LOTW

  Well, the ARRL is controlling LOTW just like I control my antenna farm - I
  built it and its mine. They built LOTW, its theirs. Ahhh, make that ours -
  the members - and I fully expect that we will benefit. And just as a
rising
  tide lifts all ships, it will help non-menbers as well that care to use it
  (which will be free, most likely forever).

  I have a few guests who operate my station and use my antenna farm, and
  although perhaps abstractly it makes some sense I charge them some hourly,
  contest, or QSO fee, of course I don't and never will. Instead I feed them
  and make endless coffee . . .

  I severely doubt the ARRL will EVER charge end users for LOTW - it just
was
  never part of the game plan. Unless I'm part of a big conspiracy too :)
  Now charging CQ, or RSGB, or anyone else who wants to use LOTW for their
  award program - that would certainly be acceptable and proper, and
expected.
  And also I expect that LOTW will eventually reduce the ARRLs operating
  expenses as well, and perhaps even increase award revenue (although I'm
  pretty sure the ARRL doesn't make any money on QSL bureaus, Awards, etc,
it
  would be fine with me if they did).
  >
  >I believe one of the major reasons they will not accept an E-QSL or
another
  >eletronic QSL is because they want the control and the profit that goes
  >with it.  They
  >may not be charging initially but they will in time.
  >
  Sorry, but this is just silly. No offense intended.

  73
  Ted KT1V

  >From: "Chuck Gooden" <CGooden at insightbb.com>
  >To: "Jim White, K4OJ" <k4oj at tampabay.rr.com>
  >CC: Tower Talk <towertalk at contesting.com>
  >Subject: [TowerTalk] ARRL and LOTW
  >Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:43:42 -0500
  >
  >
  >
  >On 13 Aug 2003 at 22:31, Jim White, K4OJ wrote:
  >
  > > To tell you the truth I cannot wait for the bugs to get ironed out of
  > > LOTW... I REALLY hate all the expenses associated with QSLing.
  > >
  >
  >Jim,
  >
  >The ARRL is controlling LOTW and I firmly believe they will start to
charge
  >for the
  >use of it just like the charge for the QSL buro, and any awards.
  >
  >I believe this is more so the case as I look at the aging ham population.
  >If you send
  >green stamp(s), or IRC's, now, why wouldn't you spend 50 cents to a $1.00
  >for a
  >contact in LOTW.
  >
  >I believe one of the major reasons they will not accept an E-QSL or
another
  >eletronic QSL is because they want the control and the profit that goes
  >with it.  They
  >may not be charging initially but they will in time.
  >
  >
  >73's
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