[TowerTalk] W0IYH Feed line Choke Performance

[Jim White, K4OJ]

...the WA2SRQ studies are on several places on the net including K1TTT's 
most excellent web site

http://www.k1ttt.net/technote/airbalun.html

I have toyed with the idea of making these as a side business... as a 
happy user of "WA2SRQ baluns" for years... and no bugs!

I would be interested to know if there is a market for these... I am 
looking for a small business, have a few mechanical tweaks W1CW and I 
added to the basic design - probably would sell them on eBay or in the 
ham classifieds...

Please reply direct to me on this one!

Thanks,

Jim, K4OJ




Tim Duffy K3LR wrote:
> HI Paul!
> 
> You are correct, it would be interesting experiment and some day I will take my
> own measurements on coax single layer chokes and I will post my findings here.
> However, in the mean time there are two excellent sources that have good
> information on the subject. W7EL has some suggested single layer coax chokes in
> the ARRL Antenna Book. WA2SRQ had a TowerTalk post some years back (should be
> in the archives) where Ed gave a very detailed account of his tests related to
> coax chokes.
> 
> 73,
> Tim K3LR
> http://www.k3lr.com
> 
> "Paul Christensen, Esq." wrote:
> 
> 
>>Tim,
>>
>>By chance, did you happen to measure the impedance of an air-wound choke
>>consisting of many tight turns?  On the low bands, it would be an
>>interesting exercise to determine the equivalent number of air-wound turns
>>needed on a given diameter in order to approximate the same impedance
>>effectiveness as either the W2DU or W0IYH types.
>>
>>-Paul, W9AC
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Tim Duffy K3LR" <k3lr at k3lr.com>
>>To: "Towertalk" <towertalk at contesting.com>
>>Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:41 PM
>>Subject: [TowerTalk] W0IYH Feed line Choke Performance
>>
>>
>>>I posted some of my experience concerning the W2DU type choke
>>>performance a few weeks ago.
>>>There were several requests for the test data.
>>>I retrieved my lab notes taken from my HP Network Analyzer on October
>>>15, 2001.
>>>
>>>The W0IYH choke is made from 100 type FB-5622-43 beads on RG-142 with
>>>silver plated PL-259's on each end.
>>>The list is test frequency followed by impedance
>>>1.8 MHz  1152 ohms
>>>3.7 MHz  3483 ohms
>>>7.1 MHz  4115 ohms
>>>14.2 MHz  1783 ohms
>>>21.2 MHz  1280 ohms
>>>28.5 MHz  1234 ohms
>>>
>>>My tests with the W2DU choke:
>>>1.8 MHz  984 ohms
>>>3.7 MHz  1733 ohms
>>>7.1 MHz  1921 ohms
>>>14.2 MHz  1432 ohms
>>>21.2 MHz  905 ohms
>>>28.5 MHZ  423 ohms
>>>
>>>In 100% key down CW tests into a 50 ohm dummy load for 10 minutes I
>>>found the W2DU to overheat (individual bead temperature exceeded
>>>manufactures ratings) at 500 watts on every band. The W0IYH choke passed
>>>the same test at 2000 watts and was well within the temperature
>>>specification for each bead. I believe the W0IYH choke has adequate
>>>safety factor for 1500 watt stations as long as the VSWR does not exceed
>>>3:1.
>>>
>>>There are lots of W2DU chokes in service and as you can see they will
>>>work well. The W0IYH design is an improved version. As I indicated in my
>>>September 1998 CQ Contest magazine article, I use the W0IYH design at my
>>>station. They are on every feed point of every antenna, at the tower
>>>mounted stacked antenna RF  switch box and at the end of each antenna
>>>feed line where it connects to the RF amplifier in the radio room. They
>>>keep RF from flowing on the outside shields of the feed lines very well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>If you are interested in ready to go chokes, completed W0IYH chokes are
>>>available from Comtek Systems. Please contact them for price and
>>>availability.
>>>http://www.comteksystems.com
>>>
>>>
>>>73,
>>>Tim K3LR
>>>http://www.k3lr.com
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>
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>>
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>>questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
>>
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> 
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