Oh yes Steve, and I can appreciate that, however I've heard: "Hams is weird" "Hams is cheap" I've never denied either.<G> Geo W7LFD |Steve Katz Sez: |Sure, but since I buy good (new) ones for $.90/each, I'd |better be able to |rework one in less than 50 seconds or it would be cheaper |to toss it out and |use a new one, based on my time value. -WB2WIK/6