[TowerTalk] RE: Screw in achors--soil types

[Jim W7RY]

Rudy Wrote:
 "I used 5' anchors with 6" augers (maybe they are 8"--can't remember) that
they use for power pole guys on my tower.  My tower is 100' of 25G with 3
guys of 1/4" EHS. "

Do you know how much more load the 1/4" adds over using what the manufacture
recommends (3/16" EHS) ?

If you did the calculation you would be surprised. My guess is at least
800-1000 Lbs more load on the tower.

What was the reason for using 1/4" ?

Just wondering...

73
Jim w7RY

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rudy Marcelletti, K8SWD" <rudym at net-link.net>
To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:56 PM
Subject: [TowerTalk] RE: Screw in achors--soil types


> I used 5' anchors with 6" augers (maybe they are 8"--can't remember) that
they use for power pole guys on my tower.  My tower is 100' of 25G with 3
guys of 1/4" EHS.  I have about 17' of wind load on top.  Winds have gusted
to about 60mph or so since I put it up about 6 years ago or so.  My soil was
undisturbed.  I screwed the anchors in with a long pipe at an angle about
what the middle guy is.  The soil is about 4" to 6" of "dark dirt" on top of
a yellowish fine sand, that gets yellower and denser as it gets deeper.  The
nearest standing water is a 1/2 mile away--so I am really dry.  I have about
10 yards of concrete at the tower base.  I have used one of these anchors
(not guyed to the tower!) for a winch anchor to pull stumps and only screwed
it is a few feet.  The power line guys told me they tried to pull out a 5'
shaft 12" auger anchor from similar soil with a D6 cat and could not.  They
also said they never have had to replace an auger anchor when a car hits a
guy wire--the cable is pulled--bolts and washers--right through a pole.
They just drill another hole.  If you have firm, solid soil that will remain
that way, you can use screw-in anchors.  If you have loam with some clay
that holds water and get mushy when it rains--they could pull out as the
earlier post showed.  Most of the towers in my area use augers, including
some 200' commercial towers.  Check with the soil conservation people in
your county government to see what you have and then go from there.  Just
because it will work across the road doesn't mean it will work on your side.
>
> Rudy Marcelletti, K8SWD
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