And to complicate it further take a look at the Sommer. <A HREF="www.sommerantennas.com"> www.sommerantennas.com</A> Sort of a combo log and yagi that covers WARC and can cover 40 and 30 also. I am really confused. Anyone have any experience with the Sommer? Radio k4ia Craig "Buck" Fredericksburg, Virginia USA FISTS 6702 CC 788 Diamond 64