[TowerTalk] Permits

[hdmc38 at bellsouth.net]

If there permitting 140MPH its not because its built better,but someone swears it is.Thats the easy part

            J PATRICK KG4VBR
> 
> From: <hdmc38 at bellsouth.net>
> Date: 2003/03/12 Wed PM 09:14:41 EST
> To: Fred Hopengarten <k1vr at juno.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: [TowerTalk] Permits
> 
> Well Fred so far I've got everything from piece of cake to lotsa luck.I can tell you that each city in the county does it differently.In the city of Oakland Park where I reside the following is needed.Structual permit including a survey for location,foundation details,elevations,wind load calc's for 140 mph!,and any other details such as guying or bracketing.An electrical permit for the low voltage wiring(coax&rotor cable),and grounding.It will also need to be approved by the Planning and zoning board.It must also meet setbacks and anything else they may come up with.All this just on a phone call!I can't wait to submit the plans.You can have a meeting with P$Z before you submit to see if it may fly on there part.Of course it still must be approved by structual and electrical plan review.Then pass your inspections,get you certificate of completetion and your done.There are some exceptions in the city's land development code.They are in the definitions and state antenna excluding amatuer radio antennas,and telecommunication tower excludung amatuer radio support structure.I'm sure you have to call it this way and not a tower.Mind you this is all for a 25' tower with a cushcraft MA5B mini beam and a 2 meter ringo on top.Total height is 39' above grade.This sure doesn't sound like reasonably accommodation stated in PRB-1.Which by the way is also a Florida state statute #'s125.561 and 166.0435.One more thing and I'm gonna stop cause this is making my head hurt.I hold Standard Inspectors and plan review license's(I work in a different city) from the state of Florida.Been an inspector for 5 years and a chief for 4.You would think I could get through this with somewhat less difficulty than someone with no permitting experience.And no one design's for 140 MPH.You have to get a state of fl.registered PE to swear to god it does and sign and seal the documents.There are alot of towers I mean amateur radio support structures without permits.And I can see why.Well thats it for now.I'm not sure what I will do next,but will keep you informed.So far no info from anyone who as acctually permited one.By the way my wife says she'll kill me if I submit this for a permit due to our earlier permit fiascos with the roof,fence and interior remodel permits.So if I'm dead(and I may wish i was after this just kidding)I'll have her e-mail you with the results.If you put this in the book do I get a copy?Thanks for asking and listening will let you know the next chapter.
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>                            Thanks again
>                            J PATRICK KG4VBR> 
> > From: Fred Hopengarten <k1vr at juno.com>
> > Date: 2003/03/10 Mon PM 05:54:04 EST
> > To: hdmc38 at bellsouth.net
> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Permits
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:37:27 -0500 <hdmc38 at bellsouth.net> writes:
> > > Has anyone ever permited a tower in Broward County Fl.?Also when and 
> > > was it under the new Fl building code?Would like to hear your 
> > > experience's and problems.Thanks in advance.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >                             Joe KG4VBR
> > > 
> > 
> > As author of the ARRL book on Antenna Zoning (see www.antennazoning.com),
> > I'd really appreciate it if you would send me a summary of what you get.
> > 
> > Fred Hopengarten K1VR                       hopengarten at post.harvard.edu
> > Six Willarch Road * Lincoln, MA 01773-5105
> > 781/259-0088 *eFax 419/858-2421
> > 
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> JOE PATRICK
> SENIOR PLUMBING/MECHANICAL
> INSPECTOR CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH
>