The new Icom 7800 could be as much as 12 months away. They had the HF prototype on display at Dayton. It looks a lot like the Icom classic 781 with more color glitz and DSP and very high standards on low noise and sensitivity that is incredible. But with the price range of $7,000-8,000 it should! Get on the list and get in line. -Mike S K0BUD