[TowerTalk] elevated short vertical dipole or quarterwave
monopole?
John Tait
johnei7ba at eircom.net
Thu Dec 2 14:44:32 EST 2004
Check out "Another Way to Look at Vertical Antennas" by Rudy Severns
N6LF....QEX March1999 and http://www.iol.ie/~bravo/low_band_antennae.htm
73
John EI7BA
> Here's an interesting optimization question..
>
> Say you have a maximum height limit (call it 33 feet) and you want to put
> up
> a vertical antenna for 40m. You have limited space for a ground radial
> array (think suburban back yard, not 40 acres of tidal plains in a salt
> marsh).
>
>
> You could either put up a standard 1/4 wave monopole with ground wires,
> etc.
> The ground radial array is going to be non-optimal, and moderately lossy.
> Maybe 10-20 ohms loss? Rr would be around 30-35 ohms (or pretty close, I
> would assume, depending on the diameter), so the system would be 60-70%
> efficient.
>
> Or, you could put up a loaded vertical dipole that's 1/4 wavelength
> long(so
> the feed point would be 15-16 feet off the ground). Ballparking it, you'd
> need about 16 uH of loading, and some matching to get the impedance
> reasonable. Rr=13-17 ohms (1/4 that of a halfwave dipole), if Qcoil=400, X
> is about 700ohms, so Rcoil=2 ohms. You'd have some loss in the loading
> coil, however, you wouldn't have the loss in the ground radial array. The
> current in the short dipole would also be bigger, so IR losses in the
> element itself would be greater. All in all, it looks like it might be in
> the same general efficiency ballpark, if not slightly better, because the
> poor ground radials really hurts the monopole.
>
> The far field (many wavelengths away) effects would be essentially the
> same
> for both.. they're both vertically polarized, etc. There will be a
> different lobe structure; the phase center is a different height above
> ground.
>
> I'm wondering about close in. Loss due to RF absorbtion in the reactive
> near field of the elevated dipole in the earth for instance.
>
> The elevated dipole will also be narrower band, which has to be dealt
> with.
>
>
> Any comments, thoughts, practical observations, etc.
>
> Jim, W6RMK
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