[TowerTalk] Ground Radials Insulated or Not
Jim Lux
jimlux at earthlink.net
Mon Dec 6 16:56:49 EST 2004
At 01:46 PM 12/6/2004 -0500, Gary Schafer wrote:
>Jim Lux wrote:
>>At 08:18 AM 12/6/2004 -0800, Michael Tope wrote:
>>
>>> From a performance point of view, I suspect it doesn't make
>>>any difference at all whether the wires are insulated or not.
>>>One consideration that I haven't heard discussed with regard
>>>to radials, however, is lightning protection. Wouldn't it be better
>>>from a lightning perspective to have at least some of the radials
>>>in the system uninsulated? Perhaps a few heavy radials (6 to 8)
>>>made from #4 bare copper interspersed with the balance of the
>>>radial system made from whatever is cheapest. Just a thought.
>>>
>>>Mike, W4EF......................................
>>
>>One might argue that you want to keep the "RF grounding" function of the
>>antenna (which, after all, is connected to the coax shield) separate from
>>the "lightning current discharge" function.
>
>How are you going to keep them separate?
You can't necessarily, but it's more that the design requirements for each
are different. I don't say it's practical or desirable, but one could
imagine a narrow band filter at the feedpoint (connected beween vertical
element and ground field) that passes only the desired amateur band.
>>The junction from antenna/tower/whathaveyou to the lightning ground is
>>going to rise in voltage pretty substantially, regardless of how good the
>>ground is. A notional 5 ohm ground with 10kA lightning stroke current is
>>going to go to 50 kV.
>
>That's right! The lightning is not going to discriminate between anything
>that you want to call a lightning ground and the radials that are in the
>ground that you call an rf ground.
>
>Why not take advantage of all that work of putting in radials. That is one
>of the best lightning grounds you can get. It provides many paths for the
>lightning to dissipate. Much better than several ground rods.
But is a good RF radial grounding system really "one of the best lightning
grounds you can get". A raft of small wires might well be a worse
lightning ground than a few nice big wires or rods. The smaller wires may
fuse with the lightning current. Say you get a 20kA strike and you've put
in 60 wires. That's 300+ amps into each wire (if the current divides
equally, which it probably won't). 300 Amps is a ballpark fusing current
for AWG10 wire in air (admittedly, that doesn't take into account the short
duration of the lightning impulse, etc.)
>However it would not hurt to install a few ground rods connected to the
>radials in addition.
I'll say that this is true. For just the reason described above.
What's standard practice in the broadcast industry?
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